[SoaS] [Marketing] Possible style for upstream/downstream diagram

Thomas C Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Sat Jun 5 07:15:10 EDT 2010

Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:03 AM, John Tierney <jtis4stx at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> From: garycmartin at googlemail.com
>>> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:10:16 +0100
>>> To: marketing at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> Subject: [Marketing] Possible style for upstream/downstream diagram
>>> Hi folks,
>>> Spotted this info-graphic style a while back and thought it could be an
>>> ideal style for a diagram clarifying upstream/downstream relationships.
>>> Would likely switch it to a vertical portrait orientation, and be more
>>> 'watery' in metaphor than 'foodie', but I think you'll get the gist:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/starsammy/4605760111/
>>> Need someone to list out the arcs/nodes, I'd only be up-to speed on a few
>>> of the more obvious relationships.
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>> P.S. If I could remember who raised the topic, I would go haunt them for
>>> the details directly ;)
>> May be from this thread Tues April 27th:
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2010-April/002799.html
>> Here is an excerpt that speaks to the need for visual diagrams of SoaS and
>> Sugar along with Upstream and
>> Downstream partners/relationships-timelines/constraints.  Marketing can help
>> here but the drawing of relationships
>> an the intricacies involved in different release processes would best be
>> accomplished if drawn up first by those closest to them.
>> .......I believe we are all working towards the same goal. From the
>> marketing,
>> educational outreach, not so techy side of things, I believe we need some
>> help actually understanding the process of getting the activities qualified,
>> the
>> time frame(timeline), the upstream-downstream relationships. I along with
>> the
>> Teachers, Educators, University Professors outside of Computer Science have
>> a hard time understanding and visualizing the process.
>> Possibly a Workflow/Mindmap/Timeline Project Map that explains the SoaS
>> Process,
>> the Sugar build, the Fedora build, the connections/constraints as they
>> relate to
>> Upstream-Downstream, who is Upstream-Downstream, the dates when activity
>> testing
>> should take place, and any other tasks/constraints that relate to putting
>> together this
>> successful build. If you could come up with a one page visual that would be
>> enormously
>> helpful to our messaging and help new members of the Sugar
>> Community understand the
>> mechanisms and processes related to FOSS projects. Having a Big Picture view
>> helps
>> understand where your individual work fits in and also helps with the
>> expectation aspect.
>> Clear, Simple, Visual.
> I'm currently travelling, so this email might turn out to be shorter
> than it'd have usually been. Just sayin' in advance... :)
> But I agree that making clear who's doing what at which time in the
> release process is something we still need to - and will - improve.
>> After this stable build with group of activities is released, what is
>> process and what
>> will it take to get other activities working?
> Further activity downloads from activities.sugarlabs.org are supposed
> to be working because Sugar on a Stick includes the Sugar Platform
> libraries.
> If they don't, this needs to be confirmed in a non-SoaS environment
> and if the issues persist, a ticket needs to be filed against the
> activity which could - if necessary - also marked as incompatible with
> a certain Sugar version in question.
> This is however just my understanding. If the activity works in
> another environment (like a full Fedora install), it's probably a SoaS
> bug that we'd need to investigate.
>> Some questions:
>> Is there a plan to include with the release a Guide with Screenshots for Bug
>> Tracking
>> (How to file bug and where for SoaS 3), Activity testing reports, USB
>> Creator. For the
>> Elementary teacher, College of Education individual, and the students the
>> screenshot
>> variety of tutorial is essential. If not I understand  with lack of
>> resources, but could
>> this possibly be worked on following release.(I read in the threads that
>> some documentation
>> is being included) Doing a little extra here by going beyond written
>> instructions on the wiki
>> and putting together these screenshot tutorials will help the future users
>> of Sugar tremendously.
> I agree this is an important part! The SoaS team (kudos to Mel here)
> worked on a major overhaul of the Sugar on a Stick wiki page
> (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick) to which we're now
> referring as a contributor portal. There's a wiki page on how to file
> a ticket here (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/How_to_file_a_ticket).
>> Another question would be after they receive Mirabelle and go to ASLO to get
>> more activities what exactly happens?
>> Do they just try and download any Activity and see if they work?
>> Will they be prevented from downloading non-working activities?

(it is included on DVD in ASLOxo-2 directory)

Should show comparabilities. Mel and sebastian are working on a webkit? so
it can be on wiki in form we all can contribute to.

Tom Gilliard
> I'm aware of the "experimental" tag in activities.sugarlabs.org. Also,
> activities usually say with which Sugar version they are compatible.
> This is obviously no entire protection against non-working activities,
> but it's a start.
>> Do we have a second list of partially working or completely broken
>> activities?
>> I want to fully understand the present situation that way when we present to
>> them
>> I will know the kind of resources to ask them to try to put in place when
>> they return
>> to their perspective Universities and reach out to colleagues........
> We're currently working on getting the feature and release process
> better documented, so this is something in the queue for v.4 that will
> discussed at the meetings!
> Your comments and thoughts are really appreciated and really helpful,
> because this *is* a topic we should tackle. Thank you for speaking up!
> :)
> --Sebastian
>> We ended up handing out 300-350 Sugar Demo CD's and Sugar on a Stick
>> Creation Kit07
>> version DVD's(No Mirabelle-wasn't ready) at the Computers and Writing
>> Conference at Purdue.
>> I will be following up with these University Level Researchers and Writing
>> Program Experts and
>> would like to see that these above necessities for long term success are put
>> into the pipeline.
>> Please understand I read the meeting minutes from SoaS release wrap-up
>> and have been following much on SoaS list but many of are intended end-users
>> and helpers will never have the time to read what they would have to try and
>> understand-thus a real effort to take time to make/condense are most
>> important timelines,
>> relationships, and communications into one page visual documents that a
>> Elementary school
>> Teacher/Student/Parent can look at and understand how they can fit in is
>> important.
>> In this case a picture is worth a thousand words.
>> Just some thoughts to get the ball rolling.
>> Best!
>> John Tierney
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