[SoaS] [realness] Re: [realness] Sugar On A Stick for Macintosh

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Sat, 24-07-2010 a las 13:50 -0400, Carlos Rabassa escribió:
>   
>> Thanks Bernie,  Thanks Bert,  Thanks Pato,
>>
>> What a community!
>>
>> Three answers complementing and confirming each other in the same
>> morning!
>>
>> (Deleted the copy to SoaS; I´m not a member.)
>>
>> Now I believe I have a very clear picture.
>>
>>
>> If I have to reboot the computer from the usb drive,  I believe it is
>> very easy,  I have no problem with that.
>>
>> It was a frequently used emergency procedure in the days where it was
>> common to try to start the computer the usual way and finding there
>> was a problem.
>>
>> But,  it is extremely inconvenient,  you lose the use of the computer
>> for all other applications until you shut down and start again.
>>
>> Many of the emulators we found when we started learning the XO without
>> having one,  worked like that.
>>     
>
> Emulators and virtual machines are definitely more convenient than
> bootable USB systems, but there's a cost involved: they generally
> require more memory and a faster processor to run two operating systems
> stacked one on top of the other.
>
> For production use with old school computers or cheap netbooks, one is
> better off booting directly into Sugar.
>
> I think we should provide virtual machine images for the purpose of
> easily demoing Sugar on computers like yours.
>
>
>   
Here is one:

It built is a while ago
It would be easy to make more if they are needed
it requires Sun Virtualbox (not ose) to do import.....
It is available for Mac I believe.
> ===This is a Virtualbox Appliance of soas-3-Mirrabelle(RC3)===
> updated 5/19/2010
>
> questions:
> satellit on #sugar freenode IRC
>
> Appliance root password:
>
> root=sugarroot
>
> This appliance is ready to run "firstboot" (agree/user name/password/tz/etc)
>
> * installed with liveinst(Anaconda) to 8GB Virtual Disk in 2GB slices
>
>  Download these 3 files:
>
>   
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-v3-MirabelleREADME_FIRST.txt
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-v3-Mirabelle.ovf
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-v3-Mirabelle.mf
>> One thing I still don´t understand:
>>
>> Cannot Etoys To Go be expanded to offer the rest of the applications
>> in the XO,  not just Etoys?
>>     
>
> Unfortunately, it's not that easy. Etoys is entirely based on Squeak, a
> virtual machine that has been already ported to Windows and MacOS.
>
> Other Sugar activities are written in a variety of programming languages
> and are not as isolated from the system as Etoys is, making them a lot
> harder to port to other platforms. (The statement of years ago that
> Sugar was being ported to Windows was technical nonsense).
>
>   
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