[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SOAS 2 problems

[Peter Robinson]

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>wrote:

> On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 08:53 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > You can also use the upstream liveinst to install to a usb drive. You
> > need a second stick (or a real liveCD) so that you boot the live image
> > off one and install to the other. I've done it before and it works
> > well.
>
> Ah, didn't know there were two different tools. ZyX is also in Fedora,
> and Warren Togami told me recently that the livecd-tools are currently
> unmaintained. He's been doing some bug fixing, but has no time to do any
> real development. When I asked live iso/usb questions on #fedora-devel,
> none of the core developers seemed to know (or care) much about it :-(
>

liveinst is the official Fedora tool. Its part of anaconda.


> Separate from the tools issues, I guess it would be nice to our users if
> we could provide a ready-to-use downloadable usb image which doesn't
> require any special tool besides dd (or something like RAWRITE.EXE on
> winblows).
>

dd or rawwrite isn't exactly what I would class as easy to use for the
average user.


> One problem with plain images is that you need to decide the size ahead
> of time. The partition size is hard-coded in the DOS partition table.
> Even if the partition table were flexible, ext2/3/4 needs to be re-sized
> manually (although this could be done online and quickly on first boot).
>

That's the advantage of liveinst. Boot the live CD/Key and it deals with all
of that. As long as the key is large enough for the contents of the livecd
it will then expand out the filesystem to fill the install destination as
part of the procedure.


> I agree with Sebastian that we should work with upstream to find a
> solution, since these issues are bothering Fedora as much as SoaS. We
> might want to look at how other live distros solved these problems. I'll
> ask around :-)
>

That's much better than reinventing the wheel.

Peter
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