[SoaS] Planning towards SoaS v3

Caroline Meeks solutiongrove at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 22:28:37 EST 2010

Can you say more about how and why the boot helper is going to be buried?

I've got a ton of older hardware that works just fine once its booted, some
of it zips, but doesn't have the capability to boot from USB.


On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm sure Sebastian has already emailed about this subject but with SoaS 3
> been approved as a Fedora 13 feature and myself being a co-maintainer with
> Sebastian I thought I'd put my point forward as to what I would like to see
> happening and what I'll be working towards in the next release. So the major
> things I can see for SoaS3 are as follows:
> 1) all upstream in Fedora
> 2) rpm packaged activities
> 3) Sugar 0.88
> 4) boot helper is dead and buried
> So 1 and 3 aren't overly controversial. 1 is a requirement of being able to
> use all the lovely upstream Fedora infrastructure and will generally make
> life easier for the SoaS maintainers. 3 is a given :-D 2 has various
> opinions but that's not part of this discussion.
> The last point I think will get a mixed response from what I've seen on
> various sugar/olpc lists of late but the more I read about it the more I
> believe its bugs that cause the majority of the problems rather than
> hardware issues. For example all modern Mac's should boot SoaS fine (there
> are a few issues [1]). Fedora on which SoaS is based doesn't have a lot of
> the problems we see and they have a lot of different hardware and use cases
> than the relatively focused SoaS so we should be able to fix most of the
> issues
> So I'd like to see some testing before the final release comes out for both
> boot issues and others. For this I'm proposing we do something similar to
> the Fedora Test Days. The way this will vary slightly is by doing "SoaS test
> weeks" where we pick a number of test points to focus upon but do it both on
> the mailing list and IRC to allow as many people as possible to get involved
> and to ensure we have the best possibly release by doing as much testing
> before the release rather than having discussions 6 weeks after the release
> with threads like "Blah doesn't work".
> So I'd like to hear from others what they'd like to see in SoaS 3, what
> they can work on and suggestions for test weeks. You already know the topic
> of the first week is going to be. I'd like to see SoaS moving to more
> proactional releases where we do more testing before hand rather than people
> running it up after its been releases so that we get a decent release from
> the go get as. It makes the user experience better for the beginning for all
> involved.
> Discuss!
> Have a good weekend!
> Regards,
> Peter
> [1] Mac boot bugs
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528232
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824
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