[SoaS] [Marketing] SOAS-3: Final Activity List - Attention needed!

[Thomas C Gilliard]

John Tierney wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
>  
>
> Thanks for all the work you all are doing! Working together
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> is surely the desired path!
>  
>
> I ask the following questions because I am attending a Computers and
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> Writing Conference at Purdue University May 20-22, 2010. On Saturday 
>
> morning May 22nd we will be putting on a Sugar Workshop for K-12 
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> Teachers, University Professors and Students. 
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> http://www.digitalparlor.org/cw2010/workshops  (bottom of page)
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>  
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> I will be joined by Tammy Conrad-Salvo Associate Director Purdue Writing 
>
> Lab, Gerald Ardito who has headed up and XO-Sugar on a Stick deployment 
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> in Six fifth grade classes over the last two years and has based his PHD 
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> Dissertation on Sugar(Defending May 21st), and by distance Walter and 
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> Prof. Rich Rice Texas Tech(has an XO display at Science Spectrum Lubbock,TX).
>  
> We will be distributing 300 Sugar CD's for all conference participants to 
>
> try out. I am trying to figure out if Mirabelle is the choice for this occasion.
> If we do give out Mirabelle, I want to be able to be very clear with Audience 
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> on expectations with additional activities. If this is framed in the correct way 
>
> we could turn this into a group of activities testers.(Since they are Computers
>
> and Writing group they are very technically oriented but that does not mean 
>
> on the command line) As part of our presentation we will be talking about University
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> Level Professors and Students collaborating with K-12 Teachers in a multi-discipline 
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> way reaching out to College of Education and College of Computer Science colleagues 
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> to participate with student project work as resources.
>
>
> I believe we are all working towards the same goal. From the marketing,
> educational outreach, not so techy side of things, I believe we need some
> help actually understanding the process of getting the activities qualified, the
> time frame(timeline), the upstream-downstream relationships. I along with the
> Teachers, Educators, University Professors outside of Computer Science have
> a hard time understanding and visualizing the process. 
>
>  
> Possibly a Workflow/Mindmap/Timeline Project Map that explains the SoaS Process, 
>
> the Sugar build, the Fedora build, the connections/constraints as they relate to 
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> Upstream-Downstream, who is Upstream-Downstream, the dates when activity testing 
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> should take place, and any other tasks/constraints that relate to putting together this 
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> successful build. If you could come up with a one page visual that would be enormously 
>
> helpful to our messaging and help new members of the Sugar Community understand the 
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> mechanisms and processes related to FOSS projects. Having a Big Picture view helps 
>
> understand where your individual work fits in and also helps with the expectation aspect.
> Clear, Simple, Visual.
>  
> After this stable build with group of activities is released, what is process and what
> will it take to get other activities working?
>  
>  
> Some questions:
> Is there a plan to include with the release a Guide with Screenshots for Bug Tracking
>
> (How to file bug and where for SoaS 3), Activity testing reports, USB Creator. For the 
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> Elementary teacher, College of Education individual, and the students the screenshot 
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> variety of tutorial is essential. If not I understand  with lack of resources, but could 
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> this possibly be worked on following release.(I read in the threads that some documentation 
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> is being included) Doing a little extra here by going beyond written instuctions on the wiki 
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> and putting together these screenshot tutorials will help the future users of Sugar tremendously. 
>  
> Another question would be after they receive Mirabelle and go to ASLO to get
> more activities what exactly happens? 
> Do they just try and download any Activity and see if they work?  
> Will they be prevented from downloading non-working activities?
>   
> Do we have a second list of partially working or completely broken activities?
>   
No but the versions of sugar they are designed for are listed on ASLO


Some Suggestions:
1-)Download

   http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO.iso

It contains 111 activities to burn to a CD
You can use them from the CD or put them on a USB Stick and drag drop 
them from the stick into the running sugar journal.
This is a way to do quick installs without internet access.
Users can test them and remove them if they do not work. ( it is 
included in the DVD listed below)

2-) Download and burn the DVD:

  http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/SugarCreatonKit07.iso

This has pdf.s of the Floss Manuals and Many other source and learning 
materials :
----------------------------------------------------
==What is on this DVD?==
   version .07

* What is Sugar.pdf
(http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar)

*-Read Me First Floss Manuals {Folder}
http://en.flossmanuals.net
(Browse)
(Chat)
(funWith the Journal)
(Make Your Own Activities)
 >How to write sugar activities by James Simmons
(Write)
(Record)
(The Terminal)
(Turtle art)
(Write)

*CONTENTS OF DVD.txt
(listing of DVD Contents-THIS DOCUMENT)

*-The Undiscoverable Features of Sugar.pdf
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable
125mb

*-soas-2-blueberry-direct-cleared-3GB.img.xz
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-3-20100319-2GBUSB-Corrected.img.bz2
440mb
(stable 4 GB USB img file for Blueberry with ext3 file structure)
use this command in root terminal to write: dd if=xxxxx.img of=/dev/sd(*) 
* path to your USB BE Certain this is correct, VERY DANGEROUS!

*-soas-3-20100319.iso
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/soas-3-20100319.iso
454m
(Stable f13 spin with minimal number of applications)

*-soas-2-blueberry.iso
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-blueberry.iso
380m
(Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)

*-soas-1-strawberry.iso
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-strawberry.iso
380m
(Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)

* SugarClone {folder}
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/fgrose/
(script files for making a customized live USB Self-replicating)
( superclone.pdf)
( modified_livecd-iso-to-disk)
( newSugarStick)
( SugarClone)
( transferSugarImage)
( Duplicating SoaS with customization.txt)

*-livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
21.k
*-How to Make a USB Stick.txt
(instructions on how to use the above script)

*-soas-1-boot.iso
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-boot.iso
8.4m
(Use as CD to Boot strawberry v1 USB for older PC's)

*-soas-2-boot.iso
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-boot.iso
14m
(Use as CD to Boot Blueberry v2 USB for older PC's)

*-image-writer-mac
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer-mac
 6.8k
(Intel Mac-use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)

*-image-writer
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer
7.9k
(use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)

*-HOW TO MAKE an ISO from a CD or DVD.txt

*-How to Make a USB Stick.txt

*-How To Sugarize applications.txt

*-Working with Live USB's.txt

*-PREPARATION OF AN OPERATIONAL SoaS USB KEY
(Jean Thiéry [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]
Member of OLPC-France [http://olpc-france.org])

*-ASLO.iso
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz
566m
(111 application.xo files copy to a USB and drag drop into sugar journal 
to install them to Sugar)

*-Fedora-12-i386-netinst.iso
(Minimal CD to make your own custom fedora USB or Hard Disk install 
REQUIRES HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNETCTION TO USE)
 Note: A USB install may take 6+ hrs at high speed

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You could burn some of these DVD's and distribute them with Mirabelle.

Tom Gilliard
satellit

>  
> I want to fully understand the present situation that way when we present to them
> I will know the kind of resources to ask them to try to put in place when they return
> to their perspective Universities and reach out to colleagues.
>  
> I am toying with the idea of giving them two CD's. One would include the image that
> Gerald Ardito is using in New York and has been working well. The second would be
> much like the SoaS Creation Kit with the Mirabelle image included. What are your
> thoughts on this approach?
>  
> Thanks For All the Hard Great Work You Guys are Doing!
>  
> John Tierney
>  
>   
>> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:54:55 +0100
>> From: pbrobinson at gmail.com
>> To: sdaly.be at gmail.com
>> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; marketing at lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> Subject: Re: [Marketing] [SoaS] SOAS-3: Final Activity List - Attention needed!
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> I would much rather we work together as well!
>>
>> Firstly your point "(SoaS-1 was beta-1, SoaS-2 was v1, etc.)" is a
>> completely different point of view than your previous official press
>> releases from SugarLabs [1] and [2]. I believe one of the major points
>> of marketing is about consistency.
>>
>> To quote the first release "LinuxTag, Berlin, June 24, 2009: Sugar
>> Labs™, nonprofit provider of the Sugar Learning Platform to over
>> one-million children worldwide, announces the immediate availability
>> of Sugar on a Stick v1 Strawberry." and the second "PARIS, December 8,
>> 2009 — Netbook World Summit — Sugar Labs(R), volunteer-driven
>> nonprofit provider of the Sugar Learning Platform for over one-million
>> children around the world, announces the release of Sugar on a Stick
>> v2 Blueberry."
>>
>> You are correct.... we all want "to make Sugar better known". The
>> whole reason we have slimmed down the Activities is to make the
>> included Activities stable so "Sugar could catch on quickly if robust"
>> but I completely disagree with your "the new version won't fulfil the
>> demo role". The whole point of the Activities chosen was to cover all
>> the major features of Sugar in a group of Activities that is stable
>> and works. As stated previously I and others think we are better off
>> shipping a smaller selection of Activities that cover all main
>> features of Sugar such as Collaboration and Media rather than 100s of
>> Activities that don't work as expected, crash randomly or fail of
>> different hardware. So what major features of Sugar have we missed in
>> the list of included Activities?
>>
>> Given that there is not enough people doing QA and that I believe we
>> are better off shipping a smaller stable base that demos the core
>> features of Sugar. If we stop releasing official releases until we had
>> the resources to make every Activity stable and tested we would never
>> have released "Sugar on a Stick v1 Strawberry" or "Sugar on a Stick v2
>> Blueberry" and by the time that happened for v3 people would have long
>> since forgotten that SoaS even existed..... not what the ides of
>> Marketing is about and we wouldn't be making "Sugar better known, to
>> developers, to teachers, and to the industry (OEMs...)."
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> [1] http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=press&article=20090624&language=english#20090624
>> [2] http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=press&article=20091208&language=english#20091208
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I'd much rather we work together. Making Sugar and its Activities
>>> robust is a challenge and doing so on Sugar on a Stick even more. We
>>> have a resources problem that needs to be solved; part of the solution
>>> is to make Sugar better known, to developers, to teachers, and to the
>>> industry (OEMs...). It's a chicken-and-egg situation; Sugar could
>>> catch on quickly if robust, but that requires resources we don't have.
>>> But teachers, education buyers, journalists need to be able to see and
>>> touch Sugar, and for that they need a solution (the historical
>>> scarcity of XOs for reviewers has been part of OLPC's PR problem since
>>> the start). Sugar on a Stick has had that role. However, the new
>>> version (as well as it will fulfill a production role) won't fulfill
>>> the demo role. This creates a problem. The version numbers were
>>> marketing numbers (SoaS-1 was beta-1, SoaS-2 was v1, etc.) and
>>> appropriating the number for a version unsuitable for demoing Sugar
>>> means marketing can't work with it.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>
>>>> I'm so pleased that you think that all the hard work that Sebastian,
>>>> myself and all the other Sugar developers that have put into the Sugar
>>>> 0.88 release and associated SoaS release is so 0.5. and a whole lot
>>>> less than previous releases. I think your choice is demeaning to the
>>>> hard work that everyone does and without active testing of other
>>>> Activities by other people it only hurts SoaS when things don't work
>>>> because the release team are the only people that test stuff and
>>>> aren't paid full time to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> As stated previously, it's a mistake for this release to be numbered v3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't be able to do anything with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So as it stands the final Activity list that we're pushing for SOAS-3
>>>>>> will be as below unless someone gives me reasonable doubt as to the
>>>>>> release team's (Sebastian and myself) decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the final list is:
>>>>>> - browse
>>>>>> - physics
>>>>>> - turtleart
>>>>>> - irc
>>>>>> - log
>>>>>> - terminal
>>>>>> - Record
>>>>>> - Read
>>>>>> - Write
>>>>>> - Chat.
>>>>>> - etoys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In literally the last 10 minutes Sebastian and I have fixed the Write
>>>>>> issue and over the last 2 weeks with the latest Record release and a
>>>>>> number of fixes and testing I've got Record to what seems to be a
>>>>>> stable and working release. The last of the changes should be in the
>>>>>> daily build from tomorrow (including a fix from sdz for the lack of a
>>>>>> boot screen).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing to note is that other than sdz and I there has only been one
>>>>>> other person test and report back on the builds (Thanks Thomas!) so if
>>>>>> you haven't done so until now we are now on the home straight so
>>>>>> please test. I don't want to here the day after release "Blah is
>>>>>> broken" because someone hasn't taken 10 minutes to test the release, I
>>>>>> will be less than impressed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those who forget where they can get the daily build you can from this link.
>>>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/soas/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> The SoaS release team!
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