[SoaS] [IAEP] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Here is an attached picture of G1G1 XO_1 making a Blueberry live usb 
with liveusb-creator:
left USB has .iso
right USB is target
( note it is a slow process as it takes about 50 minutes to complete)
But the Gnome/sugar software is  well thought out and works very well.

Tom Gilliard
satellit

Gerald Ardito wrote:
> I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a
> school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our
> software from the official build.
> How do I "disable security?"
>
> Many thanks.
> Gerald
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard <
> satellit at bendbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Caryl;
>>
>> I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
>> * I requested and downloaded a developer key
>> * disabled security (very important!)
>> * installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
>>
>> This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
>> that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish)
>>
>> In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
>>  su
>>  yum install liveusb-creator
>>
>> liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
>> 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
>> 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)
>>
>>  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
>>       It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
>> This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900
>>
>> The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
>> but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
>> (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown
>> and restart.)
>> I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1
>> plus on the EeePC900.
>> (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on
>> the XO-1)
>>
>> This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
>> while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's
>>
>>
>> Tom Gilliard
>> satellit
>>
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>> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>>     
>>> Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that,
>>>       
>> but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
>>     
>>> Sounds like a "piece of cake."
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
>>> From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
>>> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
>>> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org;
>>>       
>> support-gang at laptop.org
>>     
>>> Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
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>>> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
>>>
>>> In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember
>>>       
>> that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these
>> fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and
>> training other educators who are very shy about using computers.
>>     
>>> For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a
>>>       
>> "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is
>> doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy,
>> and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
>>     
>>> Bert wrote:
>>>
>>> The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS
>>>       
>> (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is
>> read-only.
>>     
>>> So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately
>>>       
>> the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the
>> usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine.
>>     
>>> Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
>>>
>>> And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
>>>
>>> I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an
>>>       
>> early version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal
>> breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd
>> should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get
>> a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
>>     
>>> After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC
>>>       
>> 900 with Windows XP today.  It will arrive Monday.  I chose to get one with
>> Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route
>> to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
>>     
>>> So... according to the instructions at <
>>>       
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions> you download the
>> blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator.  Rather than downloading all
>> over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on
>> the Mac) and use it?  Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it
>> there?  What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this?
>>     
>>>
>>> Caryl;
>>>
>>> YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this:
>>>
>>> * Copy-paste the <Blueberry.iso>file from the SugarCreation Kit
>>> CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC
>>>
>>> * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the
>>> EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows:  (See attached .png file)
>>>
>>>     https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
>>>
>>> * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it.
>>>
>>> * Do not do a Download again. use left  select box (use existing live
>>> CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop
>>>
>>> * Insert a new target USB  (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear
>>> in Target Device window
>>>
>>> * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it )
>>>
>>> *Create Live USB....: )
>>>
>>> Very simple
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Gilliard
>>>
>>> satellit
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> note:
>>>
>>> If you get a message in graphical window :"... reset mbr"
>>>
>>> exit the running graphical liveusb-creator
>>>
>>> and start windows terminal
>>>
>>> enter "liveusb-creator --reset-mbr"
>>>
>>> it will restart graphical liveusb-creator using this extra command.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the
>>>       
>> image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I
>> would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday.
>>     
>>>  If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator
>>>       
>> process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a
>> few files and hand it out at InfoTech.  I would probably just include the
>> blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a
>> text file. What else would be good to include on this "SoaS For Dummies"
>> disk? Remember KISS.
>>     
>>> Thanks for helping get this ready for the "Big Time!"
>>> Caryl
>>>
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