[SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Caryl;

I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
* I requested and downloaded a developer key
* disabled security (very important!)
* installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc

This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish)

In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
 su
 yum install liveusb-creator

liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)

  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
       It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900

The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
(Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown 
and restart.)
I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 
plus on the EeePC900.
(A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on 
the XO-1)

This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's


Tom Gilliard
satellit






Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that, but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
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> Sounds like a "piece of cake." 
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> Caryl
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> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
> From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org; support-gang at laptop.org
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
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> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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>   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
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> In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and training other educators who are very shy about using computers. 
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> For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
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> The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is read-only.
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> So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. 
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> Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
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> And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
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> I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
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> After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 with Windows XP today.  It will arrive Monday.  I chose to get one with Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
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> So... according to the instructions at <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions> you download the blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator.  Rather than downloading all over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the Mac) and use it?  Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there?  What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? 
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> YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this:
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> * Copy-paste the <Blueberry.iso>file from the SugarCreation Kit
> CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC
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> * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the
> EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop.
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> * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows:  (See attached .png file)
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>     https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
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> * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. 
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> * Do not do a Download again. use left  select box (use existing live
> CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop
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> * Insert a new target USB  (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear
> in Target Device window
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> * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it )
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> *Create Live USB....: )
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> You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want.
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> Tom Gilliard
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> If you get a message in graphical window :"... reset mbr"
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> exit the running graphical liveusb-creator
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> and start windows terminal
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> enter "liveusb-creator --reset-mbr"
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> it will restart graphical liveusb-creator using this extra command.
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>   I do plan to purchase an optical drive as well, so I could put the image on cd. I could probably pick one up tomorrow or Sunday at Fry's so I would have it when the eeePC arrives Monday.
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>  If the CD/DVD will work for accessing the files in the LiveUSB Creator process, I could make a mini-version of Tom's Soas Creation Kit with just a few files and hand it out at InfoTech.  I would probably just include the blueberry iso file, the boot-helper file, and maybe some instructions in a text file. What else would be good to include on this "SoaS For Dummies" disk? Remember KISS.
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> Thanks for helping get this ready for the "Big Time!"
> Caryl
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