[SoaS] [support-gang] [IAEP] SoaS Good News/Bad News

[Sean DALY]

These are all valid comments, but keep in mind the Sugar on a Stick
team is quite small and needs help. Anyone who can help including with
teacher-friendly documentation is invited to join the SoaS list.
Thanks.

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Sean


On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka <yamaplos at bolinux.org> wrote:
> "Me too" postings are discouraged in good lists, but I myself feel so in
> agreement by what Gregg is pointing out to that I cannot but say, hear
> hear!
>
> What we have is too complicated, thus error prone and unfriendly, thus not
> really *usable*
>
> For Sugar or anything to revolutionize education it has to be really, really
> easy to get going
>
>
>
> On 04/08/2010 06:16 PM, Gregg Ambrosi wrote:
>
> This is just my opinion, but if the process cannot be performed reasonably
> simply by a large number of folks, including teachers (we want their input
> into the product no?), then it is too complicated. We need to offer simpler
> ways for user to run Sugar. Yes, everyone will point to Sugar on a Stick,
> however:
>
> 1. the documented CD creation process for Macs is not simple (use the
> Terminal?  Come now...)
> 2. if someone only has one computer, this means they have ONLY sugar or ONLY
> their main OS. How do you evaluate/work with Sugar and make notes, or
> document something (egads - don't say write it on paper).
>
> Simple, easy to use VMs seem to me the way to go. However, those that are
> referenced in the various places are certainly not just - copy and play. I
> am running both VM player and Parallels and I have not found a download yet
> that 'just works'. We have to remember that not everyone that wants to help
> out (or would be great to have help out) are highly technical. That is
> supposedly the point of Sugar no - you don't need any technical ability?
>
> Food for thought.
>
> g
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:55:34AM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>> > Thanks for the info. I'm glad I asked.  Now that leads to another
>> > question.  If I wanted to skip the redundant download and open the
>> > image-writer-mac file in Terminal from the larger download Tom G.
>> > posted (Sugar-Creation-Kit-ver05.iso) how would I do that?  I have
>> > copies of that download both on my desktop and burned on a DVD.
>>
>> Skipping it might not be worth the effort, since it is only a few
>> kilobytes, and by downloading it again you'll get it placed in the
>> folder that the instructions expect ... the folder called Downloads.
>>
>> However, to answer your question ... you would copy it to your Downloads
>> directory, either by dragging it across between two Finder windows (one
>> opened on the DVD, one opened on Downloads), or by figuring out the
>> filesystem paths for each and typing a Terminal command similar to this:
>>
>>        cp /Volumes/SugarDVD/image-writer-mac.py ~/Downloads/
>>
>> (Since I don't have a copy of this DVD, and the method used to create it
>> is manual and not automatically scripted, I can't determine what the
>> filesystem path after the "cp" would be.)  This command does the same as
>> dragging the file between two Finder windows, but is more exact and
>> reproducible.  The end result should be that file image-writer-mac.py is
>> in the Downloads folder.
>>
>> --
>> James Cameron
>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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>
>
> --
> Cheers, Gregg
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