[SoaS] FW: Fwd: Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X

[Dave Bauer]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Again,
>
> I looked at again this morning and found that I do now have the updated
> Virtual Box and 2 copies of SoaS that I installed this summer from a liveCD
> Scott Dowdle (from MSU in Bozeman MT) gave me. One of them opens and runs,
> but is an old version with very few Activities.
>
> I would like to be able to show the latest version to the teachers at the
> CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair on Nov. 14... even tell them how they can get it... in
> simple easy to understand terms.
>
> So, what happens to the non-techie teacher who has access to Macs only and
> hasn't a clue how to use Windows?  If she/he has a techie friend with a PC
> to help, it would be fine, but if not, she won't be able to use Sugar.
>
> Remember the mantra: Free is good!
>

 Just using the virtual appliance of soas-strawberry
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox
linked there is the best experience. Its not automated or as simple as
it could be, unfortunately. Apple has not made any of these options
simple and easy.

Right now we are working on figuring out what the options are, and
asking for help in improving the experience. I am not an expert Apple
programmer and learning as I go along how to package this.

Dave
> Caryl
>
> P.S. I do have a dual boot Windows install on my Mac, but I don't know how
> to use it to create a usb stick.
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:33:49 -0400
>> From: dave at solutiongrove.com
>> To: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> Subject: [SoaS] Fwd: Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com>
>> Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
>> To: Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
>> wrote:
>> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a
>> >> SoaS USB  stick on a Mac.
>
>> > what about create a minimal fedora appliance for VirtualBox
>> > (eventalually stripped down to the basic) with the liveusb-creator already
>> > installed & ready ?
>> > Moreover in the appliance fs there could already be stored the soas
>> > image in a well known location, so it would be oneshot download...
>> >  Shure It's a waste of download-space but should do the trick? Does It?
>> > BTW I assume that a VB fedora VM is able to write an USB stick
>> > properly...
>>
>> I do this all the time since my desktop is Ubuntu and its a pain to
>> create SoaS from there. I use the livecd-iso-to-disk but the
>> liveusb-creator runs fine also in a VM. I'll see how small I can make
>> one.
>>
>> Dave
>> >
>> > Then the enduser detailed procedure should be:
>> > 1. Download the VM image properly packed
>> > 2. boot it into Virtual Box
>> > 3. mount the USB stick in the VM
>> > 4. run liveusb-creator available in the VM
>> > 5. prepare the stick (cicle 3 to 5 as desired).
>> >
>> >
>> > ciao
>> > Carlo (F)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Gio 29/10/09, Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com> ha scritto:
>> >
>> >> Da: Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com>
>> >> Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
>> >> A: "Caryl Bigenho" <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>> >> Cc: "Sugar-Labs Mailing lists" <soas at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>> >> Data: Giovedì 29 ottobre 2009, 14:01
>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM,
>> >> Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Dave and All,
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I tried to get the SoaS to work on my MacBook
>> >> from a USB with no
>> >> > luck.  Here is what I did...
>> >> >
>> >> > I had an old version of Virtual Box (2.???) so I
>> >> downloaded the new one and
>> >> > uninstalled the old one before installing the new
>> >> one.
>> >> >
>> >> > I downloaded the appliance and attempted to follow the
>> >> instructions. The
>> >> > Boothelper does show up on Virtual Box... powered
>> >> off.  The I also seem to
>> >> > have Sugar and Sugar/SoaS... possibly left over from
>> >> the old version I
>> >> > uninstalled.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried to download SoaS to a usb stick. When I look
>> >> at the contents it
>> >> > shows up as "599-sugar-on-a-stick-v084" and the
>> >> information says it is a
>> >> > Unix executable file.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a
>> >> SoaS USB
>> >> stick on a Mac. Well I suppose you could install Windows or
>> >> Fedora and
>> >> dual boot and then run the liveusb-creator, but that seems
>> >> ever more
>> >> complicated.
>> >>
>> >> > I did a restart holding down the option key... it gave
>> >> me a choice of Mac or
>> >> > Windows, nothing else. I also tried the C key. That
>> >> just went straight to
>> >> > Mac.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Ok. With Virtualbox you don't need to reboot at all. SoaS
>> >> will run
>> >> inside Virtualbox as a guest to your OS X operating
>> >> system.
>> >>
>> >> > I think I may have the files a downloaded correctly
>> >> but just don't know how
>> >> > to make it work.
>> >>
>> >> I'll work on some better instructions.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the feedback.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Help???
>> >> >
>> >> > Caryl
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:26 -0400
>> >> >> From: dave at solutiongrove.com
>> >> >> To: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >> >> Subject: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper
>> >> for Mac OS X
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have created an experimental USB boothelper for
>> >> Virtualbox on OS X.
>> >> >> This will let you boot from SoaS on USB into a
>> >> virtual machine so you
>> >> >> don't have to try to reboot and use a cdrom.
>> >> >> This includes an applescript application called
>> >> "Soas USB" which will
>> >> >> manage starting the virtual machine and connecting
>> >> the USB to the
>> >> >> virtual machine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It has been tested on a Macbook and an iMac
>> >> running OS X 10.5.8 so
>> >> >> far. It seems to work reliably on my Macbook but
>> >> the iMac had some
>> >> >> trouble getting the USB to be recognized. I am
>> >> looking for folks for
>> >> >> might want to test and give feedback.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You'll need SoaS installed on a USB stick.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To install the appliance first download and
>> >> install Virtualbox
>> >> >> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads.
>> >> Note this only works with
>> >> >> the Personal and Evaluation License edition since
>> >> the Open Source
>> >> >> edition does not have USB support.
>> >> >> Next download
>> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com/SoaS%20Virtualbox%20Boothelper.zip
>> >> >> and unzip it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next open up Virtualbox and select File->Import
>> >> Appliance. Navigate to
>> >> >> where you unzipped the appliance and select the
>> >> Soas Boothelper.ovf
>> >> >> file.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Insert a SoaS USB. Make sure it is named "FEDORA"
>> >> in the finder.
>> >> >> Now you can run the SoaS USB application which
>> >> will eject FEDORA from
>> >> >> the finder, start up virtualbox and the virtual
>> >> appliance and attach
>> >> >> the USB. Right now its using the verbose boot
>> >> process to detect
>> >> >> errors.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If anyone has a chance to test this out I would
>> >> appeciate it. Similar
>> >> >> automated solutions could exist for Windows and
>> >> Linux virtualbox
>> >> >> hosts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Dave Bauer
>> >> >> dave at solutiongrove.com
>> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com
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