[SoaS] FW: Fwd: Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi Again,

I looked at again this morning and found that I do now have the updated Virtual Box and 2 copies of SoaS that I installed this summer from a liveCD Scott Dowdle (from MSU in Bozeman MT) gave me. One of them opens and runs, but is an old version with very few Activities. 

I would like to be able to show the latest version to the teachers at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair on Nov. 14... even tell them how they can get it... in simple easy to understand terms.

So, what happens to the non-techie
teacher who has access to Macs only and hasn't a clue how to use
Windows?  If she/he has a techie friend with a PC to help, it would be fine, but if not,
she won't be able to use Sugar.

Remember the mantra: Free is good!

Caryl

P.S. I do have a dual boot Windows install on my Mac, but I don't know how to use it to create a usb stick.


> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:33:49 -0400
> From: dave at solutiongrove.com
> To: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: [SoaS] Fwd:  Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com>
> Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
> To: Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it> wrote:
> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a
> >> SoaS USB  stick on a Mac.

> > what about create a minimal fedora appliance for VirtualBox (eventalually stripped down to the basic) with the liveusb-creator already installed & ready ?
> > Moreover in the appliance fs there could already be stored the soas image in a well known location, so it would be oneshot download...
> >  Shure It's a waste of download-space but should do the trick? Does It?
> > BTW I assume that a VB fedora VM is able to write an USB stick properly...
> 
> I do this all the time since my desktop is Ubuntu and its a pain to
> create SoaS from there. I use the livecd-iso-to-disk but the
> liveusb-creator runs fine also in a VM. I'll see how small I can make
> one.
> 
> Dave
> >
> > Then the enduser detailed procedure should be:
> > 1. Download the VM image properly packed
> > 2. boot it into Virtual Box
> > 3. mount the USB stick in the VM
> > 4. run liveusb-creator available in the VM
> > 5. prepare the stick (cicle 3 to 5 as desired).
> >
> >
> > ciao
> > Carlo (F)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Gio 29/10/09, Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Da: Dave Bauer <dave at solutiongrove.com>
> >> Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X
> >> A: "Caryl Bigenho" <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> >> Cc: "Sugar-Labs Mailing lists" <soas at lists.sugarlabs.org>
> >> Data: Giovedì 29 ottobre 2009, 14:01
> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM,
> >> Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Dave and All,
> >> >
> >> > Well, I tried to get the SoaS to work on my MacBook
> >> from a USB with no
> >> > luck.  Here is what I did...
> >> >
> >> > I had an old version of Virtual Box (2.???) so I
> >> downloaded the new one and
> >> > uninstalled the old one before installing the new
> >> one.
> >> >
> >> > I downloaded the appliance and attempted to follow the
> >> instructions. The
> >> > Boothelper does show up on Virtual Box... powered
> >> off.  The I also seem to
> >> > have Sugar and Sugar/SoaS... possibly left over from
> >> the old version I
> >> > uninstalled.
> >> >
> >> > I tried to download SoaS to a usb stick. When I look
> >> at the contents it
> >> > shows up as "599-sugar-on-a-stick-v084" and the
> >> information says it is a
> >> > Unix executable file.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a
> >> SoaS USB
> >> stick on a Mac. Well I suppose you could install Windows or
> >> Fedora and
> >> dual boot and then run the liveusb-creator, but that seems
> >> ever more
> >> complicated.
> >>
> >> > I did a restart holding down the option key... it gave
> >> me a choice of Mac or
> >> > Windows, nothing else. I also tried the C key. That
> >> just went straight to
> >> > Mac.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ok. With Virtualbox you don't need to reboot at all. SoaS
> >> will run
> >> inside Virtualbox as a guest to your OS X operating
> >> system.
> >>
> >> > I think I may have the files a downloaded correctly
> >> but just don't know how
> >> > to make it work.
> >>
> >> I'll work on some better instructions.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Help???
> >> >
> >> > Caryl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:26 -0400
> >> >> From: dave at solutiongrove.com
> >> >> To: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> >> Subject: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper
> >> for Mac OS X
> >> >>
> >> >> I have created an experimental USB boothelper for
> >> Virtualbox on OS X.
> >> >> This will let you boot from SoaS on USB into a
> >> virtual machine so you
> >> >> don't have to try to reboot and use a cdrom.
> >> >> This includes an applescript application called
> >> "Soas USB" which will
> >> >> manage starting the virtual machine and connecting
> >> the USB to the
> >> >> virtual machine.
> >> >>
> >> >> It has been tested on a Macbook and an iMac
> >> running OS X 10.5.8 so
> >> >> far. It seems to work reliably on my Macbook but
> >> the iMac had some
> >> >> trouble getting the USB to be recognized. I am
> >> looking for folks for
> >> >> might want to test and give feedback.
> >> >>
> >> >> You'll need SoaS installed on a USB stick.
> >> >>
> >> >> To install the appliance first download and
> >> install Virtualbox
> >> >> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads.
> >> Note this only works with
> >> >> the Personal and Evaluation License edition since
> >> the Open Source
> >> >> edition does not have USB support.
> >> >> Next download
> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com/SoaS%20Virtualbox%20Boothelper.zip
> >> >> and unzip it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Next open up Virtualbox and select File->Import
> >> Appliance. Navigate to
> >> >> where you unzipped the appliance and select the
> >> Soas Boothelper.ovf
> >> >> file.
> >> >>
> >> >> Insert a SoaS USB. Make sure it is named "FEDORA"
> >> in the finder.
> >> >> Now you can run the SoaS USB application which
> >> will eject FEDORA from
> >> >> the finder, start up virtualbox and the virtual
> >> appliance and attach
> >> >> the USB. Right now its using the verbose boot
> >> process to detect
> >> >> errors.
> >> >>
> >> >> If anyone has a chance to test this out I would
> >> appeciate it. Similar
> >> >> automated solutions could exist for Windows and
> >> Linux virtualbox
> >> >> hosts.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Dave Bauer
> >> >> dave at solutiongrove.com
> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com
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