[SoaS] SoaS Blueberry Marketing Collateral

[Sean DALY]

ok thanks for that Sebastian, so it creates a partition on a hard disk
with Windows or OSX already installled? That's quite a risky operation
for any nongeek teacher or parent to do. We need to warn them before
they click on anything, in our doc. And add a phrase about how backup
can be done to an external disk.

The install barrier is our greatest technical obstacle to Sugar
adoption. Sugar on a Stick sidesteps that, but what makes non-techies
willing to try it is our promise of no risk to the existing hard drive
installation. If we introduce risk, that changes our message, which
could work, but will require warnings, backup advice and probably a
scary disclaimer ("use this software at your own risk, Sugar Labs
accepts no responsibility for data loss...")

Sean


On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com> wrote:
> Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>> OK Douglas please bear with me so that's for installing on additional
>> blank media (e.g. second USB stick)? No risk to whatever's installed
>> on the host computer's hard drive?
>
> The use case is exactly like I described it: "install Sugar to a computer's
> hard disk". I'm planning to write more concrete instructions for that on a
> separate doc, but I could really use a hand and plan to get back to readying
> the release, soon.
>
> For replicating to a second USB key, the recommended way is (tip of the hat
> to Dave Bauer) something like: sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb xxx
> /dev/sr0 /dev/sdYZ
>
>> Put another way, in a typical classroom case (PC with Windows or Mac
>> with OSX) what's the benefit? We need to communicate that to teachers
>> and parents
>
> It's basically like: "You used Sugar on a Stick and want to put it on your
> hard disk while keeping all the changes you made already? Cool!"
>
> The procedure then is: Open a terminal and type a command. Launch the
> partitioner through the interface and create a partition layout (big fat
> warning should appear). Walk through the rest of the installer by selecting
> your appropriate partitions. Wait. Once it's done, unplug your USB key and
> that's it. No need to reboot. You're already using your installed system.
> After rebooting, everything should work fine, too (tip of the hat to Douglas
> McClendon for this cool technology).
>
> It will also somewhat work in schools, but from what I recall, we agreed not
> market Blueberry aggressively as entirely deployment ready.
>
> --Sebastian
>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Douglas McClendon
>> <dmc.sugar at filteredperception.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK Sebastian this is a great start but they need some work:
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> * zyx-liveinstaller: AFAIK only for GNU/Linux systems? we need to say
>>>> that
>>>
>>> zyx-liveinstaller is a program that runs from a booted soas, and installs
>>> the running soas OS to disk/partition (in traditional 'non-live'
>>> fashion).
>>>  No relation or dependence on any other OS.
>>>
>>> Though installation to loopback file on an existing linux or windows
>>> filesystem (instead of a dedicated partition or disk) is a
>>> straightforward
>>> enhancement longterm.
>>>
>>> -dmc
>>>
>>>
>
>