<p dir="ltr">I don't see promoting strengths as mutually exclusive with researching weaknesses.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But Sugar's crusade reminds me a lot of Les Miserables. Being too insistent on ideals may cause others to abandon their support.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Perhaps we should ask marketing to do a SWOT (Strengths Weaknesses Opportunities Threats) analysis. However we might not have enough funds for more than an online survey of current/past users and indirect friends of the project.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 23, 2016 8:21 AM, "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel@greenfeld.org" target="_blank">samuel@greenfeld.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div></div>Historically there have been several organizations financially supporting Sugar development.<br><br></div>But at least some of those have left, others have reduced their contributions, and it is unclear to me if any new groups have made significant tangible investments in the project.<br><br></div><div><div><div>The XO laptop and icon, both commonly associated with Sugar, are OLPC trademarks. There is nothing stopping anyone from licensing these and putting applications in the Android/Apple/Chromebook stores claiming to be "Based on Sugar" with a new "Journal" interface.<br></div><div><br></div><div>In short: Sugar is having trouble expanding beyond its current territory, or at least publicly appears to be.<br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>So this week I thought of a couple of questions:<br></div><ul><li>What would cause you and/or your school(s) to stop using Sugar?</li><li>What would another project have to offer in order for it to be used instead?<br></li><li>When would it be a good idea to move everyone to a new project?</li><li>Under what circumstances should Sugar Labs be shutdown?</li></ul><p>If we can answer these questions, maybe we can reform Sugar to better meet these competitive challenges.<br></p></div></div></div>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess I have a different vision of Sugar than you. I am interested in our creating a best-of-breed pedagogical framework what hopefully will see wide dissemination in schools, but also will show the way forward for the ed tech community as a whole, which I think tends to focus on market share more than learning outcomes. What I would like from marketing is some mechanism for highlighting the powerful ideas in Sugar that seem to be lacking in most other systems so that even if a school decides to go with a different product/project, they put pressure on that project to provide tools, not apps, collaboration, transparency, self reflection and group critique, and responsibility on the shoulders of students and teachers to shape their own world. So personally, I find your questions irrelevant to my goals.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">_______________________________________________<br>
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