<div dir="ltr">All are good questions.<div class="gmail_extra">Some replies below.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel@greenfeld.org" target="_blank">samuel@greenfeld.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Looking at past minutes, I think I am proposing more of a change in procedure than topics for the oversight meeting. We need to get more people involved than are present in the IRC meetings.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't see how changing the communication media used for the meeting</div><div>will get more people involved. In particular audio/video chat is worst than text</div><div>when there are more people. But I agree we need more people in the meetings.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>In general I am echoing what was said on the "Planning for the Future" email thread from three months ago. <br><br>But some topics (for the oversight meeting or an all-hands meeting) would be:<br></div><br><ol><li>What can Sugar publicly commit to having in terms of users/developers/finances/etc. beyond what was mentioned in the deployment survey.<br><br>Witness Dan's complaints over the 3 million number, James noting no one filed a bug report for Sugar 0.105.1 yet, the lack of candidates for past elections, the lack of interaction between the XS development and Sugar development communities, etc.<br><br>It also would be useful to know what users/developers/etc. could publicly commit to Sugar.<br></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When we talked about the deployments survey, someone proposed make a survey in the community too.</div><div>I think that would be a good idea. We need know who is active and what can do. </div><div>And think in the community globally, not only developers. We need testers, deployers, teachers,</div><div>infrastructure people, translators, write documentation, improve our web space, marketing, etc. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><ol><li>What is being done to address the main issues raised by deployments in the latest development survey.<br></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Still nothing. We received replies from 3 more deployments, then I will update the summary and release a version 1.1</div><div>We also prepared a thank you reply email for who replied to the survey, and I started to send it. </div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><ol><li>A complete holistic overhaul of how releases are done and marketed. Sugar was originally created with a "if you build it, they will come" approach that many community members have at least privately complained about.<br><br>We need real-world examples of how to integrate Sugar with curriculums, reference deployments willing to speak with prospective ones, etc.<br><br>Setting up Sugar needs to be no harder than a child using it for the first time.<br></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good points, we need find a way to set priorities and find the resources (even if is volunteer time)</div><div>to make them a reality.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><ol><li>What is being done to attract new deployments, developers (besides GSoC) and project sponsors.<br><br><br></li><li>I would like to propose a "Sugar Ambassador" program similar to the Fedora one where less-technical members of the community could engage with other groups to figure out what they would need to use Sugar. This does not necessarily mean that we need to fly them everywhere; but it would give us a good idea of what might be required to obtain gain certain types of deployments.<br><br></li></ol></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Did you think about run for a seat in the SLOB? </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Gonzalo</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting is on Monday. Anyone in the community is, as always, welcome to suggest discussion topics.<div><br></div><div>-walter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samuel@greenfeld.org" target="_blank">samuel@greenfeld.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar.<br><br>But I would like to propose having an "all-hands" meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend.<br></div><br></div>If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a Google Hangout. For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting confused by each other).<br><br></div><div>There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could happen given a wider audience.<br></div><div><br>---<br></div><div>SJG<br></div></div>
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