Great discussion, It falls under important but not urgent for me so I'm going to try to mark some todos and give some comments so when we look this up next year as it becomes urgent we have some ideas about what we wanted to do. :) I have NECC in Denver on my calendar for next year, but my ability to attend will depend on funding. I'm sure most of you guys are in the same boat.<div> <br></div><div>Dave Farning: Potential TODO: Fundraise for an NECC presence.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Mike Lee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:curiouslee@gmail.com">curiouslee@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">NECC was at the same time personally a challenge for me to prepare for, and enchanting to experience first hand being in such a wonderful concentration of tech-savvy teachers. We really need to have a big presence for Denver. There's no better way to get seen by 18,000 tech teachers in one place. Conversely, we spoke to hundreds of people, distributed hundreds of flyers and LiveCDs, but have little idea of the impact.</blockquote> <div><br></div><div>TODO: Sean? How do vendors measure their impact at a conference.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br> <br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Mel Chua <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mel@melchua.com" target="_blank">mel@melchua.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"> Kevin, Anurag, Mike, Luke, Jeff - (please forward to SL folks from NECC that I missed... also copying sugar-marketing for broader discussion)<br> <br> Was thinking recently about the kind of NECC presence Sugar Labs ought to have next year, and was wondering about your impressions of how things went this time around.<br> <br> * Being able to tell people about SoaS rocked. It seemed like most people still associate Sugar with "the stuff that runs (only) on XOs" - perhaps having only one XO at the booth next year, alongside a host of demo netbooks and laptops and maybe even a desktop running Sugar (and all collaborating) would make a compelling demo to the contrary. If Sebastian is in town (unlikely given geography, but... I can dream!), he should stop by to show off SoaS.</blockquote> <div> <br></div></div><div>One thing that I was not consistently able to do was keep my collection of netbooks out for display. I've accumulated various netbooks (in the same way Sean has), but I completely agree with Mel that it would be more instructive to have a mix of hardware--an old laptop and an old desktop machine (mini-tower with 15" LCD, keyboard and mouse) with perhaps only one netbook and the XO. I pretty much have all that laying around in my basement already. Running Sugar on diverse hardware will help to drive home not only cross-platform advantages, but the computer resuse angle.</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"> <br> * SoaS press releases awesome! Wish we had more swag. Stickers, etc. would be rockin' - but I'd settle for a stack of SL business cards for someone to take (I should have thought of making a bunch of these). I wish Sean could have come, too.</blockquote> </div><div><br>A year from now, I think swag like stickers would be more effective when the brand is better known. Most convention goers will habitually pick up anything shiny or colorful to toss in their swag bag. When it's my own money, it's hard for me not to see dollar bills being peeled off a roll for three days straight.<br> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br> * We need to have an education person (off the top of my head: Caroline, Walter, and/or a deployment teacher) run a Sugar workshop next year and show folks how it can be actually used in a classroom. Pre-load Sugar on the thin-client lab image, have people play with it.</blockquote> </div><div><br>We were close. Jeff would have been our ticket as a real teacher using Sugar. He and his crew gave a good talk though during the time they were able to attend.<br> </div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"> <br> <br> * I don't know what big developments are likely to hit in the near future, but if the "use Activities online, in browsers!" thing works, then we have a *huge* winner to demo.</blockquote></div></div></blockquote> <div><br></div><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>TODO: Before the conference pick what activities demo best and set up a custom spin. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br> If we come up with solid things to propose, then we can ask around for resources and funding to make it happen. What should we do? What did you think of our showing at this year's NECC?<br> <br> --A Somewhat Belated Mel<br> </blockquote></div></div><br>I wish for a more instructive poster next year with bullet points and photos showing Sugar in use and some of the Activity interfaces. Something a teacher could read in a minute while walking by. I'll try to work on that soon. The Sugar Learning Platform poster meant nothing to most people. Additionally, it would be really nice to have a projector going to do non-stop 10-minute live demos of Sugar and Activities.<br> <br>Collaboration is a killer feature of Sugar, and we were largely blocked from demoing that because the wifi channels at the convention center were saturated much of the time. My Verizon MiFi card wouldn't work for the same reason. I will bring a hub/switch with hard wiring next year.</blockquote> <div><br></div><div>TODO (and this one is on my urgent list) - Bug 1113- I tried this at a local expo I went to and IT DID NOT WORK. I have no idea why. Mike, can you try it at home and let me know if it works for you? We need this to work for both conferences and to put computer clusters into the GPA. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br> <br>The Revolution Linux LTSP booting in the lab on 54 ASUS nettop computers was amazing. Walter says there's no technical reason we can't do that with Sugar, so if they are back next year, we should get on their server.</blockquote> <div><br></div><div>TODO - 2 or so months before the conference talk to the LTSP vendor. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br> <br>Lastly, I will know to make a pitch way before Denver to pay for our own table in the open source area so that we can plan for a more versatile booth setup with some assurance of enough table space. I'm sure we could hit up the Scratch and Etoys teams next year for help in expanding the booth. I'd also like not to wait a year before doing another education conference and will be looking for opportunities in the DC area in the coming months to keep practicing our elevator pitches and building the field demo kit.</blockquote> <div><br></div><div>There are Computer Using Educator or similar conferences in every state every year, so lots of opportunities to practice. It would be awesome to have a kit, and a how to, and to have facilitators all over the country going to their local conferences.</div> <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Mike! </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br><font color="#888888"> <br>Mike<br><br><br> </font><br>_______________________________________________<br> Marketing mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br> </div>