Goals look good: <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors#Fedora_Ambassadors_Goals">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors#Fedora_Ambassadors_Goals</a> Can we call it Sugar Facilitators? <div class="gmail_quote"> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:21 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div class="h5">On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Sean DALY<<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: > I'm confused, is the idea that "Ambassadors" try to recruit > developers, and Sugar Labs contributors who talk to teachers be called > something else? > > I vastly prefer "Facilitators", but that's because I don't share the > view that it's a higher priority for us to reach out to FOSS > developers than to reach out to teachers, and I daresay teachers need > much more explaining of what Sugar is designed to do than developers > will. > > I think we agree that Sugar needs teacher buy-in for its success. We > need teachers challenging our concepts, offering their experience and > intuition, and identifying barriers (technical and otherwise) to Sugar > adoption. > > Of course we should be present at FOSS conventions. Of course we > should communicate to developers our passion and ideals about > bettering educational opportunity for millions of children. > > But, we're already good at that. What we're not good at yet is > confronting our ideas with classroom realities. There is a vast amount > of teacher savoir-faire out in the world about making learning happen > with Sugar, but we can't access any of it since there is no feedback > loop. I believe we should be better empowering teachers within Sugar > itself, but I have no data yet to support that position without > feedback. > > Actually, what I'd like is for Sugar Facilitators not just to go to > conventions (although we certainly should). What I'd like is to start > a tradition of visiting schools. You know, like the sales forces of > publishers, service providers, systems integrators, computer > manufacturers, and proprietary software firms do. We have an > unbeatable sales pitch compared to the others: we have nothing to sell > except ideas; we do this to improve education; we are looking for > information, and here is Sugar on a Stick for you to try out. > > In my view, fact-finding trips to schools could just be the best way > to quickly find technically adept teachers willing to share with us. > And, if we are organized about our visit reporting, we could become > much better at seeing what is going on in schools in a consolidated > way; shifts from computer labs to 1:1 computing for example, or > attitudes about the Internet, or things that work really well or not > at all. </div></div>Please take a step back and look at the _goals_ of the Fedora Ambassadors program as it applies to the overall goals of the Fedora project. Then think of how a similar project might be adapted to to the overall goals of Sugar Labs. david <div><div></div><div class="h5"> > thanks > > Sean > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Caroline > Meeks<<a href="mailto:caroline@solutiongrove.com">caroline@solutiongrove.com</a>> wrote: >> hmm, how about a link to the facilitation wiki that Gunner showed us.: >> <a href="http://facilitation.aspirationtech.org/index.php/Agenda:Index" target="_blank">http://facilitation.aspirationtech.org/index.php/Agenda:Index</a> >> >> Also, is it to late to not use the word Ambassadors. Its a power, fear and >> hierarchical filled metaphor that I think will feed into teachers existing >> feelings of alienation in regards to technology. >> >> I know we didn't come up with anything better. >> >> So my suggestion is "Sugar Facilitators" teachers and schools use the word >> facilitation frequently, I think it will be more comfortable for them.. >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:03 PM, David Farning <<a href="mailto:dfarning@sugarlabs.org">dfarning@sugarlabs.org</a>> >> wrote: >>> >>> We now have a draft wiki page on how to organize an event at >>> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Organizing_an_Event" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Organizing_an_Event</a> . >>> >>> I'll try to gather up the materials we have used in previous events so >>> we can find them again next time. Please fell free to add and correct >>> as necessary. >>> >>> david >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Marketing mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> >> >> >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> Caroline@SolutionGrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Marketing mailing list >> <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> >> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> >> >> > </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax