<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> What I want to do is write a letter. Subject: we exist. Without getting into arguments about paper vs. bits, publishers grasping at DRM, the media storm (normally staid Guardian practically hysterical), etc., the Governor's announcement is shaking up the status quo and this creates an opportunity for us to increase visibility. Investment: some time and first-class postage. </blockquote><div> +1 </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> thanks Sean <div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Caroline Meeks<<a href="mailto:caroline@solutiongrove.com">caroline@solutiongrove.com</a>> wrote: > I agree, lets stick to our area of excellence and not engage on text books, > DRM etc. > > What we have to offer is a way for kids to access materials better, cheaper > and in more locations then anyone else. > We also have a system better suited to younger students then any others. > Lets drive those points home and let other fight the battles they are in a > better position to fight. > > Our goal is to let people know we are here and what we can do so that our > allies can find us. This is an important opportunity to do this. > > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >> I'd certainly be the last person to suggest we support any kind of >> Digital Restrictions Management >> >> For more on my personal views: >> <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=2008092617563728" target="_blank">http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=2008092617563728</a> >> >> :D >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Bryan Berry<<a href="mailto:bryan@olenepal.org">bryan@olenepal.org</a>> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 09:12 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> Yes, I want to be opportunistic about this. >> >> >> >> At the very least we can raise visibility for Sugar. >> >> >> >> Our reading offer is a little fragmented (Read, Read ETexts, FBReader? >> >> InfoSlicer for assembling content) but that's not really a problem. >> >> >> >> Where we might hit a bump is publishers insisting on DRM schemes or >> >> suchlike. >> >> >> >> Sean >> > >> > Then don't accept their DRM code into the Sugar tree. Make them maintain >> > their own branch or write their freedom-hating code on top of Sugar. >> > >> > We have to be agnostic on letting people or companies use Sugar for >> > their own purposes, whether learning physics or worshipping the devil. >> > The core first step to advancing Open-Source is getting people to use >> > it. Only once they are using it can we help them understand the >> > open-source philosophy, before then it is likely to fall on deaf ears. >> > >> > The key to selling Sugar and Open-Source in general to the private >> > sector -- the guys who __will__ win these contracts, is to convince them >> > they need to move from selling education products to selling education >> > services. If they still have the mindset of selling "textbooks" digital >> > or otherwise, it will be impossible to sell them on open-source. But if >> > we sell them providing educational services to states and counties, >> > open-source will be an asset to them. >> > >> > OK, I have to get back to QA now >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Bryan W. Berry >> > Technology Director >> > OLE Nepal, <a href="http://www.olenepal.org" target="_blank">http://www.olenepal.org</a> >> > >> > > > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > Caroline@SolutionGrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove Caroline@SolutionGrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax