<html> <head> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } </style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> Thanks for the background reading-it contains the perfect segway Per Stephen Dukker in article: "OLPC's key development in our view is the software -- who cares about the hardware as long as it gets the job done inexpensively? We think that our hardware model, which did not exist when you started your project, coupled with your software creates the ideal solution." He's talking about Sugar-I think that says it all! Maybe Stephen Dukker is the right contact person. JT > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:34:44 -0400 > From: walter.bender@gmail.com > To: dfarning@sugarlabs.org > CC: marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > Subject: Re: [Marketing] Competitive Landscape: NComputing Partners with New United Nations Program to Provide Computing Access to Schools in Developing Nations > > Background reading > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118892795619917030.html > > My contacts: > > Stephen Dukker <sdukker@ncomputing.com> > founder, CEO > > Lindsay Petrillose <lindsayp@ncomputing.org> > former OLPC employee > > Will Poole <wpoole@ncomputing.org> > former Microsoft executive > > -walter > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM, David Farning <dfarning@sugarlabs.org> wrote: > > If you have contact for Ncomputing I can followup with them...  or I > > can just start cold calling. > > > > IIRC last november-december when we were looking at Ncomputing the > > thin client vs. laptop brought the discussion to a halt. > > > > I understand that currently, while most of us feel that while laptop + > > child ownership is a crucial part of  long term success of the > > learning platform, it is important to remain hardware agnostic. > > > > david > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've been trying to dig up the transcript of the WSJ debate I had with > >> these guys. I think we could make it an excuse to reengage in a > >> friendly way. > >> > >> -walter > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> In fact I looked at getting a base system to test. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately they seem to be sold through the channel in minimum > >>> orders of 10 ;-) > >>> > >>> Sean > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:02 PM, John Tierney <jtis4stx@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>Their positioning is older than ours... we continue to have the best > >>>> offer for younger kids. > >>>> > >>>> This is exactly why Sugar would be an excellent value-add for all their > >>>> Linux > >>>> deployments, it increases their reach and usefulness to the customer and > >>>> enhances > >>>> learning opportunities for younger students. > >>>> > >>>> NComputing Linux software for X350/X550, X300, and L130/L230 > >>>> http://www.ncomputing.com/Support/Knowledgebase/tabid/106/language/en-US/Default.aspx > >>>> > >>>> John Tierney > >>>> > >>>>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:44:24 +0200 > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Competitive Landscape: NComputing Partners with > >>>>> New United Nations Program to Provide Computing Access to Schools in > >>>>> Developing Nations > >>>>> From: sdaly.be@gmail.com > >>>>> To: jtis4stx@hotmail.com > >>>>> CC: walter.bender@gmail.com; marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> > >>>>> more info on thread started here: > >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-December/003224.html > >>>>> > >>>>> also: > >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-December/003227.html > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> and: > >>>>> http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Ncomputing-981346.html > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.edchannelpartner.com/articles/71046/ > >>>>> "... the new computer labs use desktop virtualization technology to > >>>>> help mitigate hardware and maintenance costs and have been equipped > >>>>> with the Microsoft Office Suite of products. The labs will be used to > >>>>> teach basic computer skills, office productivity, reading, and math, > >>>>> among other subjects." > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Their positioning is older than ours... we continue to have the best > >>>>> offer for younger kids. > >>>>> > >>>>> Beyond OLPC, a partnership with an education-aware OEM such as Dell > >>>>> would change the landscape overnight... > >>>>> > >>>>> Sean > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:30 PM, John Tierney <jtis4stx@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > From the article says they are going with linux-based. Don't see why > >>>>> > they wouldn't want to add Sugar as value add. In case of Rwanda > >>>>> > this would fit perfectly with XO rollout-Laptops and Desktops all > >>>>> > running Sugar. You would think this is something we could leverage > >>>>> > especially with Africa OLPC Corps just about to kick-off. > >>>>> > > >>>>> >>The first pilot project was completed in Burkina Faso, with additional > >>>>> >> projects spanning >Rwanda, Senegal, and Tanzania scheduled for 2009. > >>>>> >> These > >>>>> >> projects will utilize 1,000 >NComputing Linux-based virtual desktops. > >>>>> >> NComputing virtual desktops are ideal for the project because they > >>>>> >> provide > >>>>> >> very low-cost computing, are simple to ship and install, require almost > >>>>> >> no > >>>>> >> maintenance, and use only 1 watt of electricity. In addition to the > >>>>> >> product > >>>>> >> donations, NComputing will also provide its logistical and operational > >>>>> >> expertise with large-scale rollouts. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > John Tierney > >>>>> > > >>>>> >> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:57:41 -0400 > >>>>> >> From: walter.bender@gmail.com > >>>>> >> To: caroline@solutiongrove.com > >>>>> >> CC: marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Competitive Landscape: NComputing Partners > >>>>> >> with > >>>>> >> New United Nations Program to Provide Computing Access to Schools in > >>>>> >> Developing Nations > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> I know them--I debated their founder/president on the pages of the WSJ > >>>>> >> about 18 months ago. They are a Windows shop--having hired Will Plouff > >>>>> >> from Microsoft a year ago. I'd be shocked if they were to ever > >>>>> >> consider Sugar. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> -walter > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Caroline Meeks > >>>>> >> <caroline@solutiongrove.com> wrote: > >>>>> >> > Does anyone know anyone at NComputing.  Do we know if Sugar is on > >>>>> >> > their > >>>>> >> > radar? > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> http://www.ncomputing.com/tabid/180/default.aspx?ContentID=289 > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> from the press release: > >>>>> >> >> *************** > >>>>> >> >> NComputing, the leading provider of ultra low-cost computing > >>>>> >> >> solutions, today announced that it will partner with the United > >>>>> >> >> Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA) to bring > >>>>> >> >> computer access to primary and secondary schools in developing > >>>>> >> >> countries around the world. The initiative has strong support from > >>>>> >> >> UN > >>>>> >> >> Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon and aims to provide 500,000 > >>>>> >> >> workstations > >>>>> >> >> to schools in developing nations by 2012. The program is being > >>>>> >> >> developed by the UNDESA Global Alliance for ICT Development (GAID). > >>>>> >> >> ... > >>>>> >> >> Dr. Paul Jhin, who is leading the initiative, will present the > >>>>> >> >> details > >>>>> >> >> of the program to education ministers and other attendees at the > >>>>> >> >> eLearning Africa conference in Dakar, Senegal on May 29. Planning > >>>>> >> >> sessions with ministers from African countries will also be held to > >>>>> >> >> discuss additional pilot projects and large-scale deployments. �The > >>>>> >> >> NComputing virtual desktops give us an important opportunity to > >>>>> >> >> significantly expand computing access and simplify deployment,� said > >>>>> >> >> Dr. Jhin. �This maximizes the use of donated and refurbished > >>>>> >> >> computers > >>>>> >> >> and simplifies deployment and power requirements, which are key > >>>>> >> >> issues > >>>>> >> >> in many parts of the developing world.� > >>>>> >> >> *************** > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> NComputing was the only Platinum Sponsor of the Dakar conference; > >>>>> >> >> Intel and Microsoft were Gold sponsors. > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> Sean > >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> >> >> Marketing mailing list > >>>>> >> >> Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > -- > >>>>> >> > Caroline Meeks > >>>>> >> > Solution Grove > >>>>> >> > Caroline@SolutionGrove.com > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > 617-500-3488 - Office > >>>>> >> > 505-213-3268 - Fax > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>> >> > Marketing mailing list > >>>>> >> > Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> -- > >>>>> >> Walter Bender > >>>>> >> Sugar Labs > >>>>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> >> Marketing mailing list > >>>>> >> Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >>>>> > > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>> > Marketing mailing list > >>>>> > Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Marketing mailing list > >>> Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Walter Bender > >> Sugar Labs > >> http://www.sugarlabs.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Marketing mailing list > >> Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing > >> > > > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > _______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing </body> </html>