Thanks Marten. Looking forward to hear from you. cheers! Rafael Ortiz <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Marten Vijn <<a href="mailto:info@martenvijn.nl">info@martenvijn.nl</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 10:32 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Hi Marten > > i think it would be a great opportunity for Sugar Labs co and other > Local Labs to work with iicd, > > i think you know them better and you can begin the talks, > if they need a proposal of some kind we can work it out. > > so if you call them and pass them to us it would be great, </div>I 'll make the call next tuesday, I 'll get back then. Kind regards, Marten <div><div></div><div class="h5"> > > > Thanks!. > Rafael Ortiz > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Marten Vijn <<a href="mailto:info@martenvijn.nl">info@martenvijn.nl</a>> > wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:08 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz > Guerrero wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Sean DALY > <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > Hi Marten > > > > Our hope is that a local Sugar Lab can develop in > every > > country... > > > > although one of us could send a CD this time, we > would > > certainly need. > > > > An experience with the Colombian Sugar Lab in this regard is > that in > > all the presentations, conferences and meetings, > > we try to give at least some sugar CDs..right now we are in > the > > initial phase of ''showing'' Sugar to everyone and trying to > separate > > it from the XO..it's unfortunate but there is a complete > lack of > > knowledge (in Colombia) of both OLPC and Sugar but this lack > of > > knowledge is worst on Sugar, we are trying to change that > fact. > > > > Also we hope that future sugar labs in the region (maybe > Chile, > > Brazil, Peru and Uruguay) can begin to do this work. > > > > Hi Rafael, > > Maybe we can setup the iicd to work with us. > > <a href="http://www.iicd.org/" target="_blank">http://www.iicd.org/</a> > > IICD is a non-profit foundation that specialises in > information and > communication technologies (ICT) as a tool for development. > > > They have funding, traveling manpower. They believe in train > the > trainer. > > I 'll be more to happy to work with them (training advise). > > I want to help bootstrapping this, but then leave the chain. > I think request from the countries could connected directly to > them, if > they yes. Having request from Local Sugar Labs is much > stronger than me > presenting a good idea. (and as always both have to be done.) > > How could we setup this up? Shall I give them a phonecall? > And do a hand over to you? > > kind regards, > Marten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lot of funding to handle the logistics of mailing > to > > everyone who > > wants one. I agree that the Ubuntu model (ShipIt, > > <a href="https://shipit.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">https://shipit.ubuntu.com/</a> FAQ: > > <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq" target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq</a>) is a > great way to > > bypass > > bandwidth limitations, but that model requires very > > significant > > funding (not to mention lots of volunteers to stuff > envelopes > > and > > manage order taking, tracking, shipments, customs > forms, > > reporting, > > etc). You may recall that Mark Shuttleworth > personally > > financed > > Canonical with millions of rand of his own money and > placed US > > $10m in > > the Ubuntu Foundation in 2005. > > > > Most African countries, even the poorest ones, have > IT firms > > and > > computer-equipped companies, if we can find people > in those > > countries > > interested in assisting Sugar Labs we will have a > more > > scalable model. > > Canonical is getting a handle on ShipIt costs (which > are > > confidential) > > by sending boxes of CDs to Loco teams for local > distribution, > > e.g. > > > <a href="http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/" target="_blank">http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/</a> > > > > We would need to look long and hard at a decision to > do a > > shipit-like > > organization, especially as an ongoing commitment. > The speed > > of Sugar > > development means most CDs woud probably be swiftly > obsolete. > > I do > > think however that a targeted mailing of branded CDs > to > > journalists > > and education ministries/departments would be an > excellent > > promotion > > tactic. > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Marten Vijn > > <<a href="mailto:info@martenvijn.nl">info@martenvijn.nl</a>> wrote: > > > >From private conservation: > > > > > > A man in africa wants to use Sugar, > > > due a slow uplink the download will cost > > > 8 hours. > > > > > > - gzipping the iso save 10 Mb only. > > > > > > > > > Maybe there is a funder interested to > > > burn cd and off them to delevoping contries. > > > > > > Like ubuntu does. > > > > > > kind regards, > > > Marten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Marten Vijn > > > linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 > > > <a href="http://martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl</a> > > > <a href="http://opencommunitycamp.org" target="_blank">http://opencommunitycamp.org</a> > > > <a href="http://wifisoft.org" target="_blank">http://wifisoft.org</a> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Marketing mailing list > > > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Marketing mailing list > > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> > > > > > > -- > <a href="http://martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl</a> Marten Vijn > <a href="http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas</a> Sugar on a Stick > <a href="http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/" target="_blank">http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/</a> The Network Event Kit > <a href="http://har2009.org" target="_blank">http://har2009.org</a> 13th-16th August > <a href="http://opencommunitycamp.org" target="_blank">http://opencommunitycamp.org</a> 26th Jul - 2nd August > > > _______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> > > </div></div>-- <div><div></div><div class="h5"><a href="http://martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl</a> Marten Vijn <a href="http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas</a> Sugar on a Stick <a href="http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/" target="_blank">http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/</a> The Network Event Kit <a href="http://har2009.org" target="_blank">http://har2009.org</a> 13th-16th August <a href="http://opencommunitycamp.org" target="_blank">http://opencommunitycamp.org</a> 26th Jul - 2nd August _______________________________________________ Marketing mailing list <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>