Hi Marten i think it would be a great opportunity for Sugar Labs co and other Local Labs to work with iicd, i think you know them better and you can begin the talks, if they need a proposal of some kind we can work it out. so if you call them and pass them to us it would be great, Thanks!. Rafael Ortiz <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Marten Vijn <<a href="mailto:info@martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">info@martenvijn.nl</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:08 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be" target="_blank">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> wrote: > Hi Marten > > Our hope is that a local Sugar Lab can develop in every > country... > > although one of us could send a CD this time, we would > certainly need. > > An experience with the Colombian Sugar Lab in this regard is that in > all the presentations, conferences and meetings, > we try to give at least some sugar CDs..right now we are in the > initial phase of ''showing'' Sugar to everyone and trying to separate > it from the XO..it's unfortunate but there is a complete lack of > knowledge (in Colombia) of both OLPC and Sugar but this lack of > knowledge is worst on Sugar, we are trying to change that fact. > > Also we hope that future sugar labs in the region (maybe Chile, > Brazil, Peru and Uruguay) can begin to do this work. > </div>Hi Rafael, Maybe we can setup the iicd to work with us. <a href="http://www.iicd.org/" target="_blank">http://www.iicd.org/</a> IICD is a non-profit foundation that specialises in information and communication technologies (ICT) as a tool for development. They have funding, traveling manpower. They believe in train the trainer. I 'll be more to happy to work with them (training advise). I want to help bootstrapping this, but then leave the chain. I think request from the countries could connected directly to them, if they yes. Having request from Local Sugar Labs is much stronger than me presenting a good idea. (and as always both have to be done.) How could we setup this up? Shall I give them a phonecall? And do a hand over to you? kind regards, Marten <div><div></div><div> > > > > > > > > a lot of funding to handle the logistics of mailing to > everyone who > wants one. I agree that the Ubuntu model (ShipIt, > <a href="https://shipit.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">https://shipit.ubuntu.com/</a> FAQ: > <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq" target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq</a>) is a great way to > bypass > bandwidth limitations, but that model requires very > significant > funding (not to mention lots of volunteers to stuff envelopes > and > manage order taking, tracking, shipments, customs forms, > reporting, > etc). You may recall that Mark Shuttleworth personally > financed > Canonical with millions of rand of his own money and placed US > $10m in > the Ubuntu Foundation in 2005. > > Most African countries, even the poorest ones, have IT firms > and > computer-equipped companies, if we can find people in those > countries > interested in assisting Sugar Labs we will have a more > scalable model. > Canonical is getting a handle on ShipIt costs (which are > confidential) > by sending boxes of CDs to Loco teams for local distribution, > e.g. > <a href="http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/" target="_blank">http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/</a> > > We would need to look long and hard at a decision to do a > shipit-like > organization, especially as an ongoing commitment. The speed > of Sugar > development means most CDs woud probably be swiftly obsolete. > I do > think however that a targeted mailing of branded CDs to > journalists > and education ministries/departments would be an excellent > promotion > tactic. > > Sean > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Marten Vijn > <<a href="mailto:info@martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">info@martenvijn.nl</a>> wrote: > > >From private conservation: > > > > A man in africa wants to use Sugar, > > due a slow uplink the download will cost > > 8 hours. > > > > - gzipping the iso save 10 Mb only. > > > > > > Maybe there is a funder interested to > > burn cd and off them to delevoping contries. > > > > Like ubuntu does. > > > > kind regards, > > Marten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Marten Vijn > > linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6 > > <a href="http://martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl</a> > > <a href="http://opencommunitycamp.org" target="_blank">http://opencommunitycamp.org</a> > > <a href="http://wifisoft.org" target="_blank">http://wifisoft.org</a> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Marketing mailing list > > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> > > > _______________________________________________ > Marketing mailing list > <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> > > </div></div>-- <a href="http://martenvijn.nl" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl</a> Marten Vijn <a href="http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas" target="_blank">http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas</a> Sugar on a Stick <a href="http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/" target="_blank">http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/</a> The Network Event Kit <a href="http://har2009.org" target="_blank">http://har2009.org</a> 13th-16th August <a href="http://opencommunitycamp.org" target="_blank">http://opencommunitycamp.org</a> 26th Jul - 2nd August <div><div></div><div> _______________________________________________ Marketing mailing list <a href="mailto:Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Marketing@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>