[Marketing] [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions/ideas!

James Cameron quozl at laptop.org
Fri Feb 27 19:40:07 EST 2015


Okay, I hear what you're saying ... but you have to have a good reason
than wanting to go a bit more innovative; it's not your desires that
matter, it's the good outcomes for Sugar Labs that matters.

And acceptance of a PR is up to the maintainer.  Which isn't me,
thankfully.

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:31:32AM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
> Yeah, but his concept of UI is radical different than ours. We want to go bit
> more innovative. I dont have anything against PRs, but I think that's one
> created by him shouldn't be merged before our works finish.
> On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:27 James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> 
>     I do not see it as separate, I see it as a useful contest of ideas.
>     That's what pull requests are for.
> 
>     In this case, it has provided a substantial load and render benefit.
> 
>     On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:23:50AM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
>     > I think Sam shouldnt work on separate project, rather help us in
>     improving
>     > exisiting one. And disscuis so radicial UI changes with us...
>     > On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:22 James Cameron <[1][2]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Yes, that version loads faster.
>     >
>     >     15.855 seconds for load and render.
>     >
>     >     2.824 seconds for render only.
>     >
>     >     But on your version, the video embedding element "Google Code-In |
>     >     Promotional video on Sugar" is beyond the visible area, only the
>     >     sugarlabs title on black background is visible.
>     >
>     >     Scrolling down by one page using the '×' (multiply) game key incurs a
>     >     rendering delay;
>     >
>     >     1.  if the key is pressed immediately, 9.744 seconds,
>     >
>     >     2.  if the key is pressed after ten seconds, 2.864 seconds,
>     >
>     >     Also, if the page is scrolled to position the video embedding element
>     >     in the centre of screen, then use forward key to move to another
>     site,
>     >     then use back key to move back, rendering time is 14.008 seconds.
>     >
>     >     Your version loads much faster on my desktop, despite the extra
>     >     latency of HTTP over SSL (https).
>     >
>     >     On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:02:50AM +0000, Sam P. wrote:
>     >     > I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically
>     every
>     >     > JavaScript and css library that has ever been published.  Does this
>     >     version
>     >     > load faster @Quozl?  [1][2][3]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/
>     >     www-sugarlabs/
>     >     >
>     >     > On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <[2][3][4]
>     quozl at laptop.org>
>     >     wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache.
>     >     >
>     >     >     [3][4][5]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... load and render
>     35.343
>     >     seconds,
>     >     >     (previously 31 seconds),
>     >     >
>     >     >     [4][5][6]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... load and render 6.064
>     seconds,
>     >     (previously
>     >     >     5 seconds),
>     >     >
>     >     >     [5][6][7]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... render only, 14.080
>     seconds,
>     >     >     (previously 14 seconds).
>     >     >
>     >     >     [6][7][8]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... render only, 4.400 seconds,
>     >     (previously 3.6
>     >     >     seconds),
>     >     >
>     >     >     My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and
>     render
>     >     >     since last test on the XO-1.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause?
>     >     >
>     >     >     Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for
>     >     >     comparison?
>     >     >
>     >     >     Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long
>     time
>     >     >     compared to the original site.  This is a regression.  Can't
>     you
>     >     >     include those separate files into the main file?
>     >     >
>     >     >     On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
>     >     >     > Hello,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/
>     implement
>     >     them.
>     >     >     James
>     >     >     > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've
>     hade
>     >     >     significant
>     >     >     > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it
>     now.
>     >     We've done
>     >     >     some
>     >     >     > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more
>     cleaner
>     >     now.
>     >     >     Please
>     >     >     > take a look on this website - [1][7][8][9]http://
>     tools.pingdom.com/fpt
>     >     /#!/
>     >     >     csIQSO/
>     >     >     > [8][9][10]sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Again, waiting for your suggestions! 
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Regards,
>     >     >     > Tymon
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2][9]
>     >     >     [10][11]samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
>     >     >     > napisał:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >   
>     >     >   
>     >   
>        ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>     >     >     >     From: [3][10][11][12]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     >     >     To: [4][11][12][13]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     >     Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website -
>     looking
>     >     for
>     >     >     opinions
>     >     >     >     /ideas!
>     >     >     >     Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am
>     not a
>     >     web
>     >     >     >     designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change.
>     When
>     >     i mean
>     >     >     >     change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/
>     she
>     >     will be
>     >     >     >     scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and
>     that's
>     >     no a
>     >     >     good
>     >     >     >     idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu
>     >     pattern or
>     >     >     some
>     >     >     >     like this from this Project mudra site [5][6][12]http://
>     >     >     [13][14]www.projectmudra.com/ 
>     >     >     >     it will be faster. Also the head or menu should  have a
>     drop
>     >     down
>     >     >     pattern.
>     >     >     >     The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be
>     >     porting to
>     >     >     this
>     >     >     >     new site what if every thing should be in drop down
>     pattern
>     >     just like
>     >     >     the
>     >     >     >     [7][13][14][15]http://www.projectmudra.com/ site.
>     Remember i am
>     >     only
>     >     >     suggesting.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Best Regards
>     >     >     >     Samson Goddy
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100
>     >     >     >     > From: [8][14][15][16]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     >     > To: [9][15][16][17]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     >     >     >     > CC: [10][16][17][18]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     >     > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website -
>     >     looking for
>     >     >     >     opinions/ideas!
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There
>     was
>     >     no
>     >     >     >     > real difference.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik
>     wrote:
>     >     >     >     > > Hello,
>     >     >     >     > > please try to visit [1][11][17][18][19]http://
>     sugarlabs.org/
>     >     ~tymon
>     >     >     instead of [2]
>     >     >     >     http://
>     >     >     >     > > [12][18][19][20]people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon , then
>     there won't
>     >     be any 304
>     >     >     >     redirects. Thank you
>     >     >     >     > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them
>     tomorrow.
>     >     >     >     > > Tymon
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron
>     <[3][13]
>     >     >     >     [19][20][21]quozl at laptop.org>
>     >     >     >     > > napisał:
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > It took a long time to load.  See Firefox developer
>     console
>     >     >     >     > > screenshots of query load times:
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > [4][14][20][21][22]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/
>     2015-02-27/
>     >     >     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     >     >     > > [5][15][21][22][23]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/
>     2015-02-27/
>     >     >     original-load-times.png
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without
>     cache,
>     >     and
>     >     >     reduce
>     >     >     >     > > the number of servers that have to be resolved.  Also
>     >     identify
>     >     >     the
>     >     >     >     > > network speeds of the target market, and how they
>     will
>     >     perceive
>     >     >     load
>     >     >     >     > > times.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to
>     read,
>     >     >     because
>     >     >     >     > > there was not enough contrast between the text and
>     the
>     >     >     background.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and
>     >     distracting.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in
>     the
>     >     About
>     >     >     >     > > section.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > The style of the embedded activities element is
>     >     inconsistent with
>     >     >     the
>     >     >     >     > > surrounding page style.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an
>     overemphasis
>     >     on
>     >     >     history
>     >     >     >     > > of Sugar, or the history of computing.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > Otherwise, good progress.
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > --
>     >     >     >     > > James Cameron
>     >     >     >     > > [6][16][22][23][24]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     >     > > _______________________________________________
>     >     >     >     > > Sugar-devel mailing list
>     >     >     >     > > [7][17][23][24][25]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     >     > > [8][18][24][25][26]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/
>     listinfo/
>     >     sugar-devel
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > References:
>     >     >     >     > >
>     >     >     >     > > [1] [19][25][26][27]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     >     > > [2] [20][26][27][28]http://people.sugarlabs.org/
>     ~tymon
>     >     >     >     > > [3] mailto:[21][27][28][29]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     >     > > [4] [22][28][29][30]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/
>     2015-02-27/
>     >     >     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     >     >     > > [5] [23][29][30][31]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/
>     2015-02-27/
>     >     >     original-load-times.png
>     >     >     >     > > [6] [24][30][31][32]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     >     > > [7] mailto:[25][31][32][33]
>     Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     >     > > [8] [26][32][33][34]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/
>     listinfo/
>     >     sugar-devel
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > --
>     >     >     >     > James Cameron
>     >     >     >     > [27][33][34][35]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     >     > _______________________________________________
>     >     >     >     > Sugar-devel mailing list
>     >     >     >     > [28][34][35][36]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     >     > [29][35][36][37]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >     >     _______________________________________________
>     >     >     >     Sugar-devel mailing list
>     >     >     >     [30][36][37][38]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     >     [31][37][38][39]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > References:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > [1] [38][39][40]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
>     sugarlabs.org/
>     >     ~tymon
>     >     >     > [2] mailto:[39][40][41]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     >     > [3] mailto:[40][41][42]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     >     > [4] mailto:[41][42][43]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     > [5] [42][43][44]http://www.projectmudra.com/.
>     >     >     > [6] [43][44][45]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     >     > [7] [44][45][46]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     >     > [8] mailto:[45][46][47]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     > [9] mailto:[46][47][48]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     >     >     > [10] mailto:[47][48][49]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     > [11] [48][49][50]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     > [12] [49][50][51]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     > [13] mailto:[50][51][52]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     > [14] [51][52][53]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     >     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     >     > [15] [52][53][54]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     >     original-load-times.png
>     >     >     > [16] [53][54][55]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     > [17] mailto:[54][55][56]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     > [18] [55][56][57]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >     > [19] [56][57][58]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     > [20] [57][58][59]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     >     > [21] mailto:[58][59][60]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     >     > [22] [59][60][61]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     >     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     >     > [23] [60][61][62]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     >     original-load-times.png
>     >     >     > [24] [61][62][63]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     > [25] mailto:[62][63][64]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     > [26] [63][64][65]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >     > [27] [64][65][66]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     > [28] mailto:[65][66][67]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     > [29] [66][67][68]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >     > [30] mailto:[67][68][69]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     > [31] [68][69][70]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
>     sugar-devel
>     >     >
>     >     >     --
>     >     >     James Cameron
>     >     >     [69][70][71]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     >     _______________________________________________
>     >     >     Sugar-devel mailing list
>     >     >     [70][71][72]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     >     [71][72][73]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     >
>     >     > References:
>     >     >
>     >     > [1] [73][74]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
>     >     > [2] mailto:[74][75]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [3] [75][76]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     >     > [4] [76][77]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     >     > [5] [77][78]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     >     > [6] [78][79]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     >     > [7] [79][80]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
>     >     > [8] [80][81]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [9] mailto:[81][82]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     > [10] mailto:[82][83]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     > [11] mailto:[83][84]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [12] [84][85]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     > [13] [85][86]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     > [14] mailto:[86][87]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [15] mailto:[87][88]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     >     > [16] mailto:[88][89]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [17] [89][90]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [18] [90][91]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [19] mailto:[91][92]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [20] [92][93]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     > [21] [93][94]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     >     > [22] [94][95]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [23] mailto:[95][96]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [24] [96][97]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [25] [97][98]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [26] [98][99]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [27] mailto:[99][100]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [28] [100][101]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     > [29] [101][102]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     >     > [30] [102][103]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [31] mailto:[103][104]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [32] [104][105]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [33] [105][106]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [34] mailto:[106][107]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [35] [107][108]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [36] mailto:[108][109]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [37] [109][110]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [38] [110][111]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org
>     /~tymon
>     >     > [39] mailto:[111][112]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     > [40] mailto:[112][113]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     >     > [41] mailto:[113][114]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [42] [114][115]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     > [43] [115][116]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     > [44] [116][117]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     >     > [45] mailto:[117][118]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [46] mailto:[118][119]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     >     > [47] mailto:[119][120]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [48] [120][121]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [49] [121][122]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [50] mailto:[122][123]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [51] [123][124]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     > [52] [124][125]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     >     > [53] [125][126]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [54] mailto:[126][127]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [55] [127][128]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [56] [128][129]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [57] [129][130]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     >     > [58] mailto:[130][131]quozl at laptop.org
>     >     > [59] [131][132]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     tymon-load-times.png
>     >     > [60] [132][133]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     >     > [61] [133][134]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [62] mailto:[134][135]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [63] [135][136]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [64] [136][137]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [65] mailto:[137][138]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [66] [138][139]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [67] mailto:[139][140]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [68] [140][141]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >     > [69] [141][142]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >     > [70] mailto:[142][143]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     >     > [71] [143][144]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     James Cameron
>     >     [144][145]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     >
>     > References:
>     >
>     > [1] mailto:[146]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [2] [147]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
>     > [3] mailto:[148]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [4] [149]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     > [5] [150]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     > [6] [151]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     > [7] [152]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     > [8] [153]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/
>     > [9] [154]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [10] mailto:[155]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [11] mailto:[156]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [12] mailto:[157]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [13] [158]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [14] [159]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [15] mailto:[160]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [16] mailto:[161]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     > [17] mailto:[162]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [18] [163]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [19] [164]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [20] mailto:[165]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [21] [166]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     > [22] [167]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     > [23] [168]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [24] mailto:[169]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [25] [170]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [26] [171]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [27] [172]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [28] mailto:[173]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [29] [174]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     > [30] [175]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     > [31] [176]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [32] mailto:[177]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [33] [178]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [34] [179]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [35] mailto:[180]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [36] [181]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [37] mailto:[182]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [38] [183]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [39] [184]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [40] mailto:[185]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [41] mailto:[186]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [42] mailto:[187]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [43] [188]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [44] [189]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [45] [190]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [46] mailto:[191]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [47] mailto:[192]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     > [48] mailto:[193]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [49] [194]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [50] [195]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [51] mailto:[196]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [52] [197]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [53] [198]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
>     > [54] [199]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [55] mailto:[200]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [56] [201]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [57] [202]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [58] [203]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [59] mailto:[204]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [60] [205]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [61] [206]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
>     > [62] [207]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [63] mailto:[208]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [64] [209]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [65] [210]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [66] mailto:[211]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [67] [212]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [68] mailto:[213]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [69] [214]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [70] [215]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [71] mailto:[216]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [72] [217]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [73] [218]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
>     > [74] mailto:[219]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [75] [220]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     > [76] [221]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     > [77] [222]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
>     > [78] [223]http://sugarlabs.org/
>     > [79] [224]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
>     > [80] [225]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [81] mailto:[226]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [82] mailto:[227]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [83] mailto:[228]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [84] [229]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [85] [230]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [86] mailto:[231]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [87] mailto:[232]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     > [88] mailto:[233]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [89] [234]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [90] [235]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [91] mailto:[236]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [92] [237]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [93] [238]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
>     > [94] [239]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [95] mailto:[240]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [96] [241]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [97] [242]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [98] [243]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [99] mailto:[244]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [100] [245]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [101] [246]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     > [102] [247]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [103] mailto:[248]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [104] [249]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [105] [250]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [106] mailto:[251]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [107] [252]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [108] mailto:[253]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [109] [254]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [110] [255]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [111] mailto:[256]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [112] mailto:[257]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>     > [113] mailto:[258]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [114] [259]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [115] [260]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [116] [261]http://www.projectmudra.com/
>     > [117] mailto:[262]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [118] mailto:[263]dwgipk at gmail.com
>     > [119] mailto:[264]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [120] [265]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [121] [266]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [122] mailto:[267]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [123] [268]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [124] [269]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     > [125] [270]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [126] mailto:[271]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [127] [272]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [128] [273]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [129] [274]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>     > [130] mailto:[275]quozl at laptop.org
>     > [131] [276]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>     > [132] [277]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
>     original-load-times.png
>     > [133] [278]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [134] mailto:[279]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [135] [280]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [136] [281]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [137] mailto:[282]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [138] [283]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [139] mailto:[284]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [140] [285]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [141] [286]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>     > [142] mailto:[287]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>     > [143] [288]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>     > [144] [289]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> 
>     --
>     James Cameron
>     [290]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> 
> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [2] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [3] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/
> [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [5] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> [6] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [7] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> [8] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [9] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt
> [10] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [11] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [12] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [13] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [14] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [15] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [16] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [17] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> [18] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [19] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [20] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [21] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [22] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [23] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [24] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [25] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [26] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> [27] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [28] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [29] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [30] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [31] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [32] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [33] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [34] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> [35] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [36] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [37] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [38] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [39] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [40] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/
> [41] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [42] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [43] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [44] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [45] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [46] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [47] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [48] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> [49] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [50] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [51] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [52] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [53] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [54] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [55] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [56] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [57] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [58] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [59] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [60] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [61] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [62] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [63] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [64] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [65] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [66] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [67] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [68] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [69] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [70] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [71] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [72] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [73] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [74] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> [75] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [76] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> [77] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [78] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> [79] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [80] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> [81] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [82] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [83] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [84] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [85] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [86] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [87] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [88] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> [89] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [90] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [91] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [92] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [93] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [94] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [95] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [96] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [97] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [98] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [99] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [100] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [101] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [102] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [103] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [104] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [105] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [106] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [107] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [108] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [109] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [110] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [111] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [112] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [113] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [114] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [115] http://www.projectmudra.com/
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> [119] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
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> [121] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [123] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
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> [125] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [126] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [128] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [129] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [142] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [144] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [145] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [146] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
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> [148] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [149] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
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> [152] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [153] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/
> [154] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [155] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
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> [157] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [158] http://www.projectmudra.com/
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> [161] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
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> [163] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [165] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [166] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [167] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [168] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [170] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [171] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [173] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [174] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [175] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> [176] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [198] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
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> [202] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [219] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [220] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
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> [223] http://sugarlabs.org/
> [224] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
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> [226] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
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> [229] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [230] http://www.projectmudra.com/
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> [233] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [234] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [235] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [236] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [237] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [238] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [239] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [240] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [241] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [242] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
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> [244] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [245] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [246] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [247] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [248] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [249] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [250] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [252] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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> [254] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [255] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [256] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [257] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> [258] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [259] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [260] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [261] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> [262] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [263] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> [264] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [265] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [266] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [267] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [268] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [269] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [270] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [271] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [272] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [273] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [274] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> [275] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [276] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> [277] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> [278] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [279] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [280] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [281] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> [285] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [286] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> [287] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [288] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> [289] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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