[Marketing] [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions/ideas!
Sam P.
sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 19:02:50 EST 2015
I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically every
JavaScript and css library that has ever been published. Does this version
load faster @Quozl? https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache.
>
> http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... load and render 35.343 seconds,
> (previously 31 seconds),
>
> http://sugarlabs.org/ ... load and render 6.064 seconds, (previously
> 5 seconds),
>
> http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... render only, 14.080 seconds,
> (previously 14 seconds).
>
> http://sugarlabs.org/ ... render only, 4.400 seconds, (previously 3.6
> seconds),
>
> My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and render
> since last test on the XO-1.
>
> Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause?
>
> Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for
> comparison?
>
> Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long time
> compared to the original site. This is a regression. Can't you
> include those separate files into the main file?
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/implement them.
> James
> > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've hade
> significant
> > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it now. We've
> done some
> > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more cleaner now.
> Please
> > take a look on this website - [1]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> >
> > Again, waiting for your suggestions!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tymon
> >
> > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2]
> samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
> > napisał:
> >
> > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
> > From: [3]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > To: [4]quozl at laptop.org
> > Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for
> opinions
> > /ideas!
> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100
> >
> > Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am not a web
> > designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change. When i mean
> > change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/she will be
> > scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and that's no a
> good
> > idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu pattern or
> some
> > like this from this Project mudra site [5][6]
> http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > it will be faster. Also the head or menu should have a drop down
> pattern.
> > The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be porting to
> this
> > new site what if every thing should be in drop down pattern just
> like the
> > [7]http://www.projectmudra.com/ site. Remember i am only suggesting.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Samson Goddy
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100
> > > From: [8]quozl at laptop.org
> > > To: [9]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > CC: [10]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for
> > opinions/ideas!
> >
> > >
> > > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There was no
> > > real difference.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > please try to visit [1][11]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon instead
> of [2]
> > http://
> > > > [12]people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon , then there won't be any 304
> > redirects. Thank you
> > > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them tomorrow.
> > > > Tymon
> > > >
> > > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron <[3][13]
> > quozl at laptop.org>
> > > > napisał:
> > > >
> > > > It took a long time to load. See Firefox developer console
> > > > screenshots of query load times:
> > > >
> > > > [4][14]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > > [5][15]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
> load-times.png
> > > >
> > > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without cache, and
> reduce
> > > > the number of servers that have to be resolved. Also identify
> the
> > > > network speeds of the target market, and how they will perceive
> load
> > > > times.
> > > >
> > > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to read,
> because
> > > > there was not enough contrast between the text and the
> background.
> > > >
> > > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and distracting.
> > > >
> > > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in the About
> > > > section.
> > > >
> > > > The style of the embedded activities element is inconsistent
> with the
> > > > surrounding page style.
> > > >
> > > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an overemphasis on
> history
> > > > of Sugar, or the history of computing.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise, good progress.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > James Cameron
> > > > [6][16]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > [8][18]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > >
> > > > References:
> > > >
> > > > [1] [19]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [2] [20]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [3] mailto:[21]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [4] [22]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > > [5] [23]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
> load-times.png
> > > > [6] [24]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [7] mailto:[25]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [8] [26]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
> > > [27]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [2] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [3] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [5] http://www.projectmudra.com/.
> > [6] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [7] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [8] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [9] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [10] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [11] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [12] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [13] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [14] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [15] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [16] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [17] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [18] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [19] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [20] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [21] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [22] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [23] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [24] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [25] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [26] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [27] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [28] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [29] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [30] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [31] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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