[Marketing] [SoaS] [MARKETING] Get Sugar landing page

[pbrobinson at gmail.com]

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:06 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
>>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM, pbrobinson at gmail.com
>>>>> <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Walter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've been doing some work on the Get Sugar landing page in the wiki,
>>>>>>> which has been the source of some confusion amongst our potential user
>>>>>>> community. My proposed modifications (See
>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/Get_Sugar) are an attempt to
>>>>>>> streamline and consolidate the instructions for first-time users.
>>>>>>> Feedback and testing requested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some feedback....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the Mac side of things I think we would be better dealing with it
>>>>>> from a direct boot option and then having a separate virtualisation
>>>>>> option as in terms of GUI say VirtualBox is the same across all
>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have a robust direct boot option? I thought that was still
>>>>> causing more headaches than it was worth (from the support
>>>>> perspective).
>>>>
>>>> 64 bit yes, and the other graphics issues will be fixed by Fedora 14
>>>> beta (if they're not already).
>>>
>>> Where are the instructions for the 64-bit version? The only
>>> instructions I can find
>>> (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Mac) refer to a helper
>>> CD.
>>
>> Not sure about the wiki but they're here:
>>
>> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads
>>
>> There are two problems with the Mac platform:
>> 1) Linux doesn't support 32 bit platforms from 64 bit EFI systems.
>> This is a kernel issue and is the case on all platforms. Someone I
>> know at one of the major server companies was going to have a look at
>> this for me as all their new servers will be 64 bit and are EFI based
>> and while they will only support 64 bit on them they have customers
>> that will want to run 32 bit. I've followed up but not heard anything
>> back.
>>
>> 2) Graphics support due to some random way the Mac platform deals with
>> its GPU initialisation. This will be fixed for F-14 (and so SoaSv4).
>> The patches might also fix #1 but I don't have Macs to test.
>>
>> # 2 should be in the F-14 beta so testers would be welcome on 64 bit
>> and it would be interesting to see if it also fixes #1 as well.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>
> Is there a recommended way to create the Live USB on a Mac? Or is it
> still recommended to create the stick on a GNU/Linux or Windows box?

TBH I have no idea as I don't have access to one to be able to test.
Its certainly a platform that could do with more developer testing but
as my nearest Mac that I can test on is a 4 hour round trip its only
something I do every now and again when I'm at my mates place and I
normally do that using a pre created key.

I know that liveusb creator was created with the a background idea of
supporting Mac platforms in the future. Its written in QT and with the
underlying Mac platform supporting all the Linux style commands out of
the box it wouldn't be hard to add Mac support if someone has a
project they wish to do or support. Its been discussed but
unfortunately people have been busy so its dropped down their priority
list.

Peter