[Marketing] Fwd: Proposal: "What's new"

Thu Nov 19 05:07:16 EST 2009

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:50, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola at yahoo.it> wrote:
> Yes, it was mine impression too...
> Then maybe a good starting point could be to prepare a short summary, substantially based on the points you already listed here that I just rephrased:
>  1. what Sugar is
>  2. what Sugar Labs is
>  3. SL is volunteer based
>  4. Sugar is being used by  >1 million children,
>  5. Sugar is based in GNOME
>  6. OLPC is _not_ shipping Windows, and never did
>  7. Sugar is avilable in more & more distros....
>
> Then this could be sent to their mailing list directly from someone that is "known" (you?)

This would work for a smaller project, but with GNOME there isn't a
single medium that can reach all contributors and only a few people
are known by most of the community (Federico is one of them).

I have been trying to pass this message using the GNOME planet, but it
only reaches a small part of the community (due to peculiar editorial
management in the past, lots of people ignore it).

So I think that in order to reach most of the community, we need to
put the message often and in several different channels. If some of
the most followed GNOME hackers blogged about Sugar, this would be
effective.

> even better to start listing distinct (technical) areas of collaboration too...

This was my last attempt:

http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/09/free-education-as-in-free-speech.html

But it clearly could have had a much bigger impact.

Regards,

Tomeu

> my 1 Lira
>
> ciao carlo
> --- Gio 19/11/09, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Da: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>
>> Oggetto: [Marketing] Fwd: Proposal: "What's new"
>> A: "Sugar Labs Marketing" <Marketing at lists.sugarlabs.org>
>> Data: Giovedì 19 novembre 2009, 09:56
>> Looks like GNOME is currently trying
>> to organize their marketing efforts.
>>
>> Wonder if this is a good opportunity to exchange references
>> in our
>> press releases and also to increase interest in Sugar from
>> GNOME
>> developers, who are the people in this world best prepared
>> to
>> contribute to Sugar's software development.
>>
>> I think it has been clear after Bolzano that GNOME
>> developers: don't
>> know what Sugar is, don't know what Sugar Labs is, don't
>> know that SLs
>> is volunteer based, don't know that Sugar is being used by
>> >1 million
>> children, don't know to which point Sugar is based in
>> GNOME, don't
>> know that OLPC is _not_ shipping Windows, etc. and also
>> that a notable
>> portion of them are very interested in helping out once
>> they know
>> about us. Has this been the impression as well of other
>> Bolzano
>> attendees?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Paul Cutler <pcutler at gnome.org>
>> Date: 2009/11/18
>> Subject: Re: Proposal: "What's new"
>> To: Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org>
>> Cc: desktop-devel-list <desktop-devel-list at gnome.org>,
>> Murray Cumming
>> <murrayc at murrayc.com>
>>
>>
>> I really like this idea, especially as we think about GNOME
>> branding.
>>
>> One of the topics at the Marketing Hackfest last week was
>> around our
>> branding and how we partner better with the downstream
>> distributions.
>> I think this gives us a unique opportunity for users to
>> think of
>> "GNOME" and seeing the work we're doing upstream.  This
>> may also tie
>> to another idea around how we can incorporate Friends of
>> GNOME
>> opportunities as well.
>>
>> I don't know if this would actually make it easier to write
>> release
>> notes - it may make it harder as the release notes would
>> probably have
>> more detail than something like this, so in some ways we're
>> adding
>> work.  I really like how Fedora did their one sheet
>> release notes via
>> PDF for Fedora 12 [1] - something high level like that is
>> what I would
>> see here.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Patryk Zawadzki <patrys at pld-linux.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Murray Cumming
>> <murrayc at murrayc.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:12 +0100, Patryk
>> Zawadzki wrote:
>> > >> Goals? Two really. One - to make it easier
>> for users to discover newly
>> > >> introduced features.
>> > > I don't believe that most people care much,
>> partly because they don't
>> > > upgrade that often. This would be clearer if we
>> had real personas to
>> > > talk about.
>> > >
>> > > People who do care generally find the release
>> notes online already.
>> >
>> > Not really. A lot of people have no idea what GNOME
>> is. They just
>> > launch the application (or rather click on a document
>> and the app
>> > "launches itself"), see that it looks slightly
>> different and sometimes
>> > get curious as to why it looks different.
>> >
>> > Several times in the past I've read through NEWS and
>> ChangeLog files
>> > just to tell someone what the exact changes were.
>> >
>> > >>  Two - to make it easier to write GNOME
>> release
>> > >> notes.
>> > > The UI clutter seems like a high price to pay for
>> the slight possibility
>> > > that this would help with writing release notes.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't call adding a _third_ option to the menu
>> that usually
>> > contains "Contents" and "About..." clutter.
>> >
>> > Even if it is clutter, we can still add it as a
>> section in the manual.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Patryk Zawadzki
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