[Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
Gary C Martin
gary at garycmartin.com
Sat May 30 12:14:33 EDT 2009
On 30 May 2009, at 15:50, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> We'll need to check with OLPC regarding the use of the XO for our
>> splash screen. When we first started Sugar Labs, they had requested
>> that we not incorporate the XO into our branding. I'll ask Chuck and
>> Robert for their renewed input.
>
> I really hope they don't get up in arms about that. The whole intent
> of the boot process, as designed, was to jump straight into the UI,
> without messing around with lots of branding. Perhaps showing the
> Sugar logo first (the branding) and the XO second (the "pre-UI") will
> help us get around the tricky legal issues.
FWIW: I've uploaded a couple more animation variations that start with
the Sugar logo and then back to the XO for child centric UI boot
progress:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo
Regards,
--Gary
> Eben
>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin
>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the
>>>> XO in
>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI,
>>>> and in
>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as
>>>> the
>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few
>>>> seconds,
>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to
>>>> lose
>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will
>>>> attest
>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>
>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a
>>> child as central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only
>>> criticisms
>>> of the original would be:
>>>
>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>> (seems too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity,
>>> appearing dots show progress just fine)
>
> Agreed. Christian and I never wanted the XO to move at all, let alone
> be sliced in two. ;)
>
>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12
>>> to 12 feels more natural to me)
>
> That's also true. Though I'm not even sure we need the dots.
>
>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>> iconography on colour use)
>
> I think showing the logo in color is fine, but I'd stand firm on the
> XO as a gray outline until the transition to the Home screen. Our
> pie-in-the-sky mockups for the boot sequence actually had the XO
> pulsing between the outline and the child's chosen colors, but clearly
> this can't be done until we can load the colors from flash somehow,
> and it requires more work than the static frames.
>
> This would still be the preferred target, I think, if there's any way
> to make it happen. Even if we couldn't pulse the XO until the very end
> of the boot process, this would be a nice effect.
>
> Eben
>
>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>>>>> uploaded
>>>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>>>
>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Night,
>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably
>>>>> worth
>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> treatments.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian, Eben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping
>>>>>> screenshots, do
>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>>>>>> Sugar
>>>>>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous
>>>>>>> SoaS
>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but
>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>>>>>> icon...
>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So
>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling
>>>>>>> sequence
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>>>>>> backing down to the first image
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sean,
>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot
>>>>>>>> Screen
>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for
>>>>>>>> inspiration?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea
>>>>>>>>>> brewing for
>>>>>>>>>> awhile
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --G
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>>>>>>>> <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our
>>>>>>>>>>>> SoaS Yum
>>>>>>>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar logo
>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny
>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> there was
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be
>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>> great if
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of
>>>>>>>>>>> view if no
>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software
>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file
>>>>>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of
>>>>>>>>>>> olpc.tar.bz2 it
>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> config
>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order.
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the
>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a
>>>>>>>>>>> dig in
>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering
>>>>>>>>>>> if this
>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian
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