[Marketing] idea for funding /stories

Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dirakx at gmail.com
Sat May 23 23:20:21 EDT 2009


Thanks Marten.

Looking forward to hear from you.

cheers!
Rafael Ortiz


On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 10:32 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
> > Hi Marten
> >
> > i think it would be a great opportunity for Sugar Labs co and other
> > Local Labs to work with iicd,
> >
> > i think you know them better and you can begin the talks,
> > if they need a proposal of some kind we can work it out.
> >
> > so if you call them and pass them to us it would be great,
>
> I 'll make the call next tuesday,
> I 'll get back then.
>
> Kind regards,
> Marten
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks!.
> > Rafael Ortiz
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl>
> > wrote:
> >         On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:08 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz
> >         Guerrero wrote:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Sean DALY
> >         <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         >         Hi Marten
> >         >
> >         >         Our hope is that a local Sugar Lab can develop in
> >         every
> >         >         country...
> >         >
> >         >         although one of us could send a CD this time, we
> >         would
> >         >         certainly need.
> >         >
> >         > An experience with the Colombian Sugar Lab in this regard is
> >         that in
> >         > all the presentations, conferences and meetings,
> >         > we try to give at least some sugar CDs..right now we are in
> >         the
> >         > initial phase of ''showing'' Sugar to everyone and trying to
> >         separate
> >         > it from the XO..it's unfortunate but there is a complete
> >         lack of
> >         > knowledge (in Colombia) of both OLPC and Sugar but this lack
> >         of
> >         > knowledge is worst on Sugar, we are trying to change that
> >         fact.
> >         >
> >         > Also we hope that future sugar labs in the region (maybe
> >         Chile,
> >         > Brazil, Peru and Uruguay) can begin to do this work.
> >         >
> >
> >         Hi Rafael,
> >
> >         Maybe we can setup the iicd to work with us.
> >
> >         http://www.iicd.org/
> >
> >         IICD is a non-profit foundation that specialises in
> >         information and
> >         communication technologies (ICT) as a tool for development.
> >
> >
> >         They have funding, traveling manpower. They believe in train
> >         the
> >         trainer.
> >
> >         I 'll be more to happy to work with them (training advise).
> >
> >         I want to help bootstrapping this, but then leave the chain.
> >         I think request from the countries could connected directly to
> >         them, if
> >         they yes. Having request from Local Sugar Labs is much
> >         stronger than me
> >         presenting a good idea. (and as always both have to be done.)
> >
> >         How could we setup this up? Shall I give them a phonecall?
> >         And do a hand over to you?
> >
> >         kind regards,
> >         Marten
> >
> >
> >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         a lot of funding to handle the logistics of mailing
> >         to
> >         >         everyone who
> >         >         wants one. I agree that the Ubuntu model (ShipIt,
> >         >         https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ FAQ:
> >         >         http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq) is a
> >         great way to
> >         >         bypass
> >         >         bandwidth limitations, but that model requires very
> >         >         significant
> >         >         funding (not to mention lots of volunteers to stuff
> >         envelopes
> >         >         and
> >         >         manage order taking, tracking, shipments, customs
> >         forms,
> >         >         reporting,
> >         >         etc). You may recall that Mark Shuttleworth
> >         personally
> >         >         financed
> >         >         Canonical with millions of rand of his own money and
> >         placed US
> >         >         $10m in
> >         >         the Ubuntu Foundation in 2005.
> >         >
> >         >         Most African countries, even the poorest ones, have
> >         IT firms
> >         >         and
> >         >         computer-equipped companies, if we can find people
> >         in those
> >         >         countries
> >         >         interested in assisting Sugar Labs we will have a
> >         more
> >         >         scalable model.
> >         >         Canonical is getting a handle on ShipIt costs (which
> >         are
> >         >         confidential)
> >         >         by sending boxes of CDs to Loco teams for local
> >         distribution,
> >         >         e.g.
> >         >
> >
> http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/
> >         >
> >         >         We would need to look long and hard at a decision to
> >         do a
> >         >         shipit-like
> >         >         organization, especially as an ongoing commitment.
> >         The speed
> >         >         of Sugar
> >         >         development means most CDs woud probably be swiftly
> >         obsolete.
> >         >         I do
> >         >         think however that a targeted mailing of branded CDs
> >         to
> >         >         journalists
> >         >         and education ministries/departments would be an
> >         excellent
> >         >         promotion
> >         >         tactic.
> >         >
> >         >         Sean
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Marten Vijn
> >         >         <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
> >         >         > >From private conservation:
> >         >         >
> >         >         > A man in africa wants to use Sugar,
> >         >         > due a slow uplink the download will cost
> >         >         > 8 hours.
> >         >         >
> >         >         > - gzipping the iso save 10 Mb only.
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         > Maybe there is a funder interested to
> >         >         > burn cd and off them to delevoping contries.
> >         >         >
> >         >         > Like ubuntu does.
> >         >         >
> >         >         > kind regards,
> >         >         > Marten
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         >
> >         >         > --
> >         >         > Marten Vijn
> >         >         > linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6
> >         >         > http://martenvijn.nl
> >         >         > http://opencommunitycamp.org
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