[Marketing] idea for funding /stories

Marten Vijn info at martenvijn.nl
Sat May 23 07:14:04 EDT 2009


On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 10:32 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
> Hi Marten
> 
> i think it would be a great opportunity for Sugar Labs co and other
> Local Labs to work with iicd, 
> 
> i think you know them better and you can begin the talks,
> if they need a proposal of some kind we can work it out.
> 
> so if you call them and pass them to us it would be great,

I 'll make the call next tuesday,
I 'll get back then.

Kind regards,
Marten

> 
> 
> Thanks!.
> Rafael Ortiz 
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl>
> wrote:
>         On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 01:08 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz
>         Guerrero wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Sean DALY
>         <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >         Hi Marten
>         >
>         >         Our hope is that a local Sugar Lab can develop in
>         every
>         >         country...
>         >
>         >         although one of us could send a CD this time, we
>         would
>         >         certainly need.
>         >
>         > An experience with the Colombian Sugar Lab in this regard is
>         that in
>         > all the presentations, conferences and meetings,
>         > we try to give at least some sugar CDs..right now we are in
>         the
>         > initial phase of ''showing'' Sugar to everyone and trying to
>         separate
>         > it from the XO..it's unfortunate but there is a complete
>         lack of
>         > knowledge (in Colombia) of both OLPC and Sugar but this lack
>         of
>         > knowledge is worst on Sugar, we are trying to change that
>         fact.
>         >
>         > Also we hope that future sugar labs in the region (maybe
>         Chile,
>         > Brazil, Peru and Uruguay) can begin to do this work.
>         >
>         
>         Hi Rafael,
>         
>         Maybe we can setup the iicd to work with us.
>         
>         http://www.iicd.org/
>         
>         IICD is a non-profit foundation that specialises in
>         information and
>         communication technologies (ICT) as a tool for development.
>         
>         
>         They have funding, traveling manpower. They believe in train
>         the
>         trainer.
>         
>         I 'll be more to happy to work with them (training advise).
>         
>         I want to help bootstrapping this, but then leave the chain.
>         I think request from the countries could connected directly to
>         them, if
>         they yes. Having request from Local Sugar Labs is much
>         stronger than me
>         presenting a good idea. (and as always both have to be done.)
>         
>         How could we setup this up? Shall I give them a phonecall?
>         And do a hand over to you?
>         
>         kind regards,
>         Marten
>         
>         
>         
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         a lot of funding to handle the logistics of mailing
>         to
>         >         everyone who
>         >         wants one. I agree that the Ubuntu model (ShipIt,
>         >         https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ FAQ:
>         >         http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq) is a
>         great way to
>         >         bypass
>         >         bandwidth limitations, but that model requires very
>         >         significant
>         >         funding (not to mention lots of volunteers to stuff
>         envelopes
>         >         and
>         >         manage order taking, tracking, shipments, customs
>         forms,
>         >         reporting,
>         >         etc). You may recall that Mark Shuttleworth
>         personally
>         >         financed
>         >         Canonical with millions of rand of his own money and
>         placed US
>         >         $10m in
>         >         the Ubuntu Foundation in 2005.
>         >
>         >         Most African countries, even the poorest ones, have
>         IT firms
>         >         and
>         >         computer-equipped companies, if we can find people
>         in those
>         >         countries
>         >         interested in assisting Sugar Labs we will have a
>         more
>         >         scalable model.
>         >         Canonical is getting a handle on ShipIt costs (which
>         are
>         >         confidential)
>         >         by sending boxes of CDs to Loco teams for local
>         distribution,
>         >         e.g.
>         >
>         http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/
>         >
>         >         We would need to look long and hard at a decision to
>         do a
>         >         shipit-like
>         >         organization, especially as an ongoing commitment.
>         The speed
>         >         of Sugar
>         >         development means most CDs woud probably be swiftly
>         obsolete.
>         >         I do
>         >         think however that a targeted mailing of branded CDs
>         to
>         >         journalists
>         >         and education ministries/departments would be an
>         excellent
>         >         promotion
>         >         tactic.
>         >
>         >         Sean
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Marten Vijn
>         >         <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>         >         > >From private conservation:
>         >         >
>         >         > A man in africa wants to use Sugar,
>         >         > due a slow uplink the download will cost
>         >         > 8 hours.
>         >         >
>         >         > - gzipping the iso save 10 Mb only.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > Maybe there is a funder interested to
>         >         > burn cd and off them to delevoping contries.
>         >         >
>         >         > Like ubuntu does.
>         >         >
>         >         > kind regards,
>         >         > Marten
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
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