[Marketing] idea for funding /stories

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Thu May 21 03:21:00 EDT 2009


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 20:10, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Marten
>>
>> Our hope is that a local Sugar Lab can develop in every country...
>> although one of us could send a CD this time, we would certainly need
>> a lot of funding to handle the logistics of mailing to everyone who
>> wants one. I agree that the Ubuntu model (ShipIt,
>> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ FAQ:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/shipit-faq) is a great way to bypass
>> bandwidth limitations, but that model requires very significant
>> funding (not to mention lots of volunteers to stuff envelopes and
>> manage order taking, tracking, shipments, customs forms, reporting,
>> etc). You may recall that Mark Shuttleworth personally financed
>> Canonical with millions of rand of his own money and placed US $10m in
>> the Ubuntu Foundation in 2005.
>>
>> Most African countries, even the poorest ones, have IT firms and
>> computer-equipped companies, if we can find people in those countries
>> interested in assisting Sugar Labs we will have a more scalable model.
>> Canonical is getting a handle on ShipIt costs (which are confidential)
>> by sending boxes of CDs to Loco teams for local distribution, e.g.
>> http://jonathancarter.co.za/2009/05/07/ubuntu-za-loco-discs-have-arrived/
>>
>> We would need to look long and hard at a decision to do a shipit-like
>> organization, especially as an ongoing commitment. The speed of Sugar
>> development means most CDs woud probably be swiftly obsolete. I do
>> think however that a targeted mailing of branded CDs to journalists
>> and education ministries/departments would be an excellent promotion
>> tactic.
>
> To reiterate Sean's point.  Shipit, loco teams, and ambassadors
> already exist at the distribution level.  Long term, the most scalable
> option will be to make Sugar compelling enough for them to promote and
> distribute Sugar as an integral part for their distributions.
>
> Once Sugar on the distros rock, we will be able to use disks from
> them.  My guess is they will be willing donate disks to Sugar Labs or
> sell them to us at cost.
>
> In the meantime, it sounds like Marten is on to something good.
>
> The most important lesson I learned from SugarCamp is that I am
> focusing too much on where Sugar Labs should be in 5 years, rather
> then where Sugar Labs is today.

Same feeling here, I think that often when SLs people disagree, it's
because they think about different timeframes.

Regards,

Tomeu

> david
>
>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Marten Vijn <info at martenvijn.nl> wrote:
>>> >From private conservation:
>>>
>>> A man in africa wants to use Sugar,
>>> due a slow uplink the download will cost
>>> 8 hours.
>>>
>>> - gzipping the iso save 10 Mb only.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe there is a funder interested to
>>> burn cd and off them to delevoping contries.
>>>
>>> Like ubuntu does.
>>>
>>> kind regards,
>>> Marten
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marten Vijn
>>> linux 2.0.18 OpenBSD 3.6 FreeBSD 4.6
>>> http://martenvijn.nl
>>> http://opencommunitycamp.org
>>> http://wifisoft.org
>>>
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