[Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Design review plea.. OLPC desktop switcher

[Sean DALY]

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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> On 20 Jun 2009, at 01:20, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>
>> Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
>>> Sebastian is on copy of previous, if he doesn't react shortly I'd say
>>> don't bother... press release needs to go out very soon under 1 hour
>>
>> Ah, sorry folks for being a bit late (had some friends here during the
>> evening). Well, as I need to rebuild SoaS tomorrow... oh, it's already
>> Saturday, so today anyway, I don't mind rebuilding the boot screen package,
>> if it's really needed.
>
> Don't worry, go with what was already agreed, planned and prepared for the
> last 9 days or so... I looked at the changes suggested and I'd need to
> either rebuild the whole animation to adjust the number of dots to fit the
> sequence (form the current 24, as in hrs of the day), or we'd need to change
> the number of frames (i.e. add some extra static frames up front for the
> logo to display and then a full XO 24 dot cycle). I'm not sure how that
> would impact your plymouth boot timing for showing frames. Anyway easy or
> hard, not going to happen from me tonight now.
>
> Design Team: Happy to make changes, but I'd suggest a little more prompt
> feedback in future, given this finished anim has been kicking around in
> public well over a week now, and with a clear indication of deadline ;-)
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> Cheers,
>> --Sebastian
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Eben Eliason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in agreement with Christian. I think the non-overlapping treatment
>>>>> is cleaner and maintains the purity of the metaphor.
>>>>
>>>> Well the purity of the metaphor passes me by I'm afraid**, but hey, I
>>>> got the idea from you in the first place with your progress bar boot
>>>> treatment (looked more elegant with the overlap)! :-)
>>>>
>>>> **I thought the goal of the boot anim was a smooth transition all the
>>>> way to the operational Sugar UI.
>>>>
>>>>> Eben
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. Actually, I find the transition less jarring when there are no
>>>>> dots associated with the logo, since it indicates that there is no
>>>>> direct relationship between the two. When the dots are continuous but
>>>>> the graphic in the middle changes, I get the impression I missed
>>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> So is it bad enough that I should to rush the few frames of PNGs
>>>> difference over to Sebastian tonight (I'm not sure if that also means
>>>> he has extra to rebuild for tomorrow)?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> --Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 18:11, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Gary--is it online somewhere where I could look at it? Maybe I
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> need to see it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The two to look at for this are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/4b/Refined-XO-sugar-boot-with-overlap.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> vs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/7/7c/Refined-XO-sugar-boot.gif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 17:53, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean, picking up on one of your comments below:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After debating lots of ideas with lots of mockups for
>>>>>>>>>> Sugar on a Stick we went with a Sugar logo during the first
>>>>>>>>>> three dots
>>>>>>>>>> and the Xo avatar for the remaining ones. We chose variant #06
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> SoaS v1 will be called Strawberry and we will change the boot
>>>>>>>>>> color
>>>>>>>>>> and name for each SoaS iteration, the idea being to aid
>>>>>>>>>> unsophisticated users who can communicate version info just
>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> boot logo color.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For simplicity, I would suggest having the logo on a separate
>>>>>>>>> screen for
>>>>>>>>> a few secs *before* the XO and the ring with dots appear. I
>>>>>>>>> think they
>>>>>>>>> should both be kept separate, for clarity both visually/
>>>>>>>>> aesthetically, but
>>>>>>>>> also semantically (the XO at the center of the screen is a
>>>>>>>>> fundamental
>>>>>>>>> principle in the Sugar UI, and having it trade places with the
>>>>>>>>> logo in the
>>>>>>>>> middle of the ring is mixing metaphors). Let me know if you
>>>>>>>>> agree...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was tried first (some of the mock-ups have it that way), but
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> visually jarring. Like watching some random slide show of logos.
>>>>>>>> Slightly
>>>>>>>> overlapping the logo / progress dots / xo gave (IMO) continuity
>>>>>>>> to the boot
>>>>>>>> process progression.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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