[Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Design review plea.. OLPC desktop switcher

[Gary C Martin]

Hi Sebastian,

On 20 Jun 2009, at 01:20, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Sean DALY wrote:
>> Sebastian is on copy of previous, if he doesn't react shortly I'd say
>> don't bother... press release needs to go out very soon under 1 hour
>
> Ah, sorry folks for being a bit late (had some friends here during  
> the evening). Well, as I need to rebuild SoaS tomorrow... oh, it's  
> already Saturday, so today anyway, I don't mind rebuilding the boot  
> screen package, if it's really needed.

Don't worry, go with what was already agreed, planned and prepared for  
the last 9 days or so... I looked at the changes suggested and I'd  
need to either rebuild the whole animation to adjust the number of  
dots to fit the sequence (form the current 24, as in hrs of the day),  
or we'd need to change the number of frames (i.e. add some extra  
static frames up front for the logo to display and then a full XO 24  
dot cycle). I'm not sure how that would impact your plymouth boot  
timing for showing frames. Anyway easy or hard, not going to happen  
from me tonight now.

Design Team: Happy to make changes, but I'd suggest a little more  
prompt feedback in future, given this finished anim has been kicking  
around in public well over a week now, and with a clear indication of  
deadline ;-)

Regards,
--Gary

> Cheers,
> --Sebastian
>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Gary C  
>> Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>  wrote:
>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Eben Eliason wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in agreement with Christian. I think the non-overlapping  
>>>> treatment
>>>> is cleaner and maintains the purity of the metaphor.
>>> Well the purity of the metaphor passes me by I'm afraid**, but  
>>> hey, I
>>> got the idea from you in the first place with your progress bar boot
>>> treatment (looked more elegant with the overlap)! :-)
>>>
>>> **I thought the goal of the boot anim was a smooth transition all  
>>> the
>>> way to the operational Sugar UI.
>>>
>>>> Eben
>>>>
>>>> PS. Actually, I find the transition less jarring when there are no
>>>> dots associated with the logo, since it indicates that there is no
>>>> direct relationship between the two. When the dots are continuous  
>>>> but
>>>> the graphic in the middle changes, I get the impression I missed
>>>> something.
>>> So is it bad enough that I should to rush the few frames of PNGs
>>> difference over to Sebastian tonight (I'm not sure if that also  
>>> means
>>> he has extra to rebuild for tomorrow)?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Gary C  
>>>> Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 18:11, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Gary--is it online somewhere where I could look at it? Maybe I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> need to see it...
>>>>> The two to look at for this are:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/4/4b/Refined-XO-sugar-boot-with-overlap.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> vs.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/7/7c/Refined-XO-sugar-boot.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 Jun 2009, at 17:53, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sean, picking up on one of your comments below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After debating lots of ideas with lots of mockups for
>>>>>>>>> Sugar on a Stick we went with a Sugar logo during the first
>>>>>>>>> three dots
>>>>>>>>> and the Xo avatar for the remaining ones. We chose variant #06
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> SoaS v1 will be called Strawberry and we will change the boot
>>>>>>>>> color
>>>>>>>>> and name for each SoaS iteration, the idea being to aid
>>>>>>>>> unsophisticated users who can communicate version info just
>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>> boot logo color.
>>>>>>>> For simplicity, I would suggest having the logo on a separate
>>>>>>>> screen for
>>>>>>>> a few secs *before* the XO and the ring with dots appear. I
>>>>>>>> think they
>>>>>>>> should both be kept separate, for clarity both visually/
>>>>>>>> aesthetically, but
>>>>>>>> also semantically (the XO at the center of the screen is a
>>>>>>>> fundamental
>>>>>>>> principle in the Sugar UI, and having it trade places with the
>>>>>>>> logo in the
>>>>>>>> middle of the ring is mixing metaphors). Let me know if you
>>>>>>>> agree...
>>>>>>> That was tried first (some of the mock-ups have it that way),  
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> visually jarring. Like watching some random slide show of logos.
>>>>>>> Slightly
>>>>>>> overlapping the logo / progress dots / xo gave (IMO) continuity
>>>>>>> to the boot
>>>>>>> process progression.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> --Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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