[Marketing] Do not open a new window for menu link on sugarlabs.org

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Fri Apr 3 12:33:33 EDT 2009

With two tiers, we could have just four links if we so desire (like
the homepage), although I think these seven would be the most

Home / Download / Activities / Resources / Search / Donate / Contact

Why don't we link to the sitemap from Resources to cover these sections:
Wiki / Documentation / FAQ / Schools / Planet (blog) / Mailing Lists /
Community News / Bugs / Git / API / Buildbot / Translate / People /
Index /

Search second tier: Wiki search / Bugs search / Schools search
(which communicates that we *don't* have sitewide search, which is
*not* what people expect)

Contact second tier: Press / Forums / IRC / Support / Feedback

People expect menus and resort to sitemaps when menu nav is too
confusing... a sitemap is experienced as a new page, leaving where
they thought they were.

We could also go the route of sitemap-in-huge-footer (cf.
http://gizmo5.com/pc), which at least doesn't lose the current context
while proposing the sitemap. A horror to print, but that is secondary
to having usable navigation. I wouldn't want that in the static intro


On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the idea of a sitemap. We should pick the most essential five
> or six areas (keeping newcomers in mind), and could then have a "more"
> link adjacent to them leading to the sitemap, allowing people to find
> anything they need with two clicks, and without cluttering up the top
> of every page with lots of overwhelming links.
> Eben
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> there's not... that's the problem. As it stands you can google sugar
>> labs, arrive on the homepage, click on the wiki link, then click on
>> blogs or lists or bugs or git or schools or activities, and have no
>> way to return to the main homepage.
>> One solution is to make the Sugar Labs logo link to the homepage,
>> which is best-practice, but everyone who works in one section or
>> another tends to think it is weird to leave that "site"... while the
>> visitor's experience is that they are *always* on the Sugar Labs site,
>> and that it is a warren of passages and doors.
>> By two-tier, I mean a small number of "important" links, and each one
>> shows on rollover "related" links. I proposed such a hierarchy to
>> cover our 26 menu sections, in this thread on March 26th.
>> Let's try to agree on that navbar please, this will solve both the
>> usability and the second-windows problems thanks
>> Sean
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, I'd agree. I think people are more likely to get lost in a sea
>>> of windows than browsing around within one. As long as there's always
>>> a link back to the main Sugar Labs page, we're probably OK.
>>> Eben
>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>>>> Sean DALY wrote:
>>>>> I agree, as soon as we can decide on a common navbar across our
>>>>> separate site sections so visitors won't get lost. As stated
>>>>> previously I feel a two-tier navbar will work. Christian has promised
>>>>> to work something up.
>>>> Why can't we change the behavior now? People can *not* download activities
>>>> when they used the link on the sugarlabs page (when using our browser). This
>>>> is more serious to me then people possibly getting lost in a page.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>   Simon

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