<div dir="ltr">I agree with you! It is important to get together during established meetings, but it is as important to engage in concrete tasks/responsibilities. I also agree that we should all inform the rest of the board if we will be absent. <div><br><div>My suggestion is to revisit the schedule during our next board meeting. </div><div><br></div><div>Warm regards, </div><div><br></div><div>Claudia </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:46 PM Alex Perez <<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com">aperez@alexperez.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Claudia,<br>
<br>
I totally understand that real life gets in the way. I travel for work
as well, and it makes things difficult. I think the most important thing
is to be transparent about it when you may not be able to make it, and
simply say so. There are other ways than just the board meeting to
contribute to being a SLOB, however I don't think I'm incorrect in
stating that the meetings are a critical place for actual collaboration
to happen, or at least should be.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Alex Perez<br>
<span>
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<div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid #edf1f4;padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:callaurrea@gmail.com" style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Claudia Urrea</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">November
16, 2018 at 11:28 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">I understand the
concern, Alex. I am committed and interested in continuing to serve,
even if I have only participated 4 times this year. <div><br></div><div>When
I agree to join the board again, the schedule had been established, so
it took couple of months for the schedule to adjust. That said, we
should look at alternative dates, given the members of the board. As
much as I plan in advance, I could be on a plane, plane may be delay,
etc. </div><div><br></div><div>Happy to have a conversation.</div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br>Claudia </div></div><br>
</div>
<div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid #edf1f4;padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Samson Goddy</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">November
15, 2018 at 3:45 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvBody"><div dir="auto">Hello Alex<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I
prefectly understand your concerns. I am very worried about the goals
for 2018. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But maybe you
didn't see the part that we are having an election this December.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I encourage candidate that want to
move the organization forward to apply. It involves a lot of commitment
and also response to monthly meeting.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I remember saying Thank You to you
when you created the wiki.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> Ignacio, though your seat isn't up for election yet. But we
will replace you, as you requested based on the rank of the candidates
after the election. As the election committee did for Claudia as she
replace Laura. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am still pretty excited about the goals and how to
implement it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><br>
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<div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid #edf1f4;padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:nachoel01@gmail.com" style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Ignacio Rodríguez</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">November
15, 2018 at 3:30 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvBody">TBH. I honestly thought I
wasn't a SLOB member anymore :)<div>I'm in for leaving my seat to
another one.</div><div><br></div><div>I've got too much work and I can
no longer contribute to anything like I used when I didn't had
responsibilities </div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
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<div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvHr"><div style="width:100%;border-top:2px solid #edf1f4;padding-top:10px"> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%">
<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com" style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Alex Perez</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">November
15, 2018 at 2:42 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_-5754374533832047049__pbConvBody">
I hereby assert that the Sugar Labs Oversight Board has become stagnant
to the point of near-100% ineffectiveness. It no longer serves the
intended purpose, and the quality of discourse at the SLOB meetings
themselves has diminished to near-zero.<br>
<br>
Back in June/July of 2018, I created
<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions" class="m_-5754374533832047049moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions</a>
from the user
submissions Sameer had collected into a spreadsheet, and shared them to
the IAEP mailing list on July 8th. Not a single person responded, not
even to say a simple "thanks". I would now like to point out the
following bad behavior, and suggest that the current status quo for
Sugar Labs oversight is actively detrimental to the health of the
overall organization.<br>
<br>
2018 SLOB meeting attendees by month:<br>
<br>
January: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, CanoeBerry,
sverma</span><br>
February: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, CanoeBerry,
sverma, llaske<br>
March: </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, Claudia,
sverma, llaske<br>
April: </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, llaske<br>
May: walterbender (!!!)<br>
June: </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, Claudia,
llaske</span><br>
July: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoddy, CanoeBerry,
Claudia, sverma</span><br>
August: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">walterbender, samsongoody, sverma,
llaske</span><br>
September: walterbender, <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">samsongoddy</span>,
llaske<br>
October: walterbender, <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">samsongoddy<br>
November: walterbender, </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none">samsongoddy,
Claudia</span><br>
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration:none;display:inline!important;float:none"><br>
<br>
</span>For the SLOB members who cannot be bothered to regularly attend
the meetings, please review the last few chat logs at:<br>
<br>
September -
<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010/Meeting-log-2018-09-07" class="m_-5754374533832047049moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010/Meeting-log-2018-09-07</a><br>
October -
<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010/Meeting-log-2018-10-05" class="m_-5754374533832047049moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010/Meeting-log-2018-10-05</a><br>
November -
<a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-11-03" class="m_-5754374533832047049moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-11-03</a><br>
<br>
<br>
So, to recap, for the year so far:<br>
<br>
Walter has attended 11/11 meetings<br>
Lionel has attended 5/11 meetings<br>
Sameer has attended 3/11 meetings<br>
Adam has attended 3/11 meetings<br>
Samson has attended 10/11 meetings<br>
Ignacio has attended zero meetings<br>
Claudia has attended 3/11 meetings<br>
<br>
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