<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Sebastian Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebastian@fuentelibre.org" target="_blank">sebastian@fuentelibre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I had asked that we discuss changes to our Code of Conduct in <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Conduct" target="_blank">a wiki
page</a> I have worked on, where I put the result of a lot of
research.</p>
<p>The time I spent, back in January, on this document, is because I
myself felt not only harassed but threatened. It came as a
realization then, that perhaps more people have had similar
experiences and have abandoned Sugar Labs because they were less
tenacious than others. Hopefully you'll find the references I put
there (beyond geek feminism) interesting. They represent a broad
spectrum of approaches to making a community more welcoming.<br>
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<p>I found our <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Legal/Code_of_Conduct" target="_blank">current
Code of Conduct</a> was not sufficient because (1) it is vague
and difficult to evaluate when it's been infringed. Cultures vary
widely with regard to what is <i>considerate</i>, <i>respectful</i>,
<i>collaborative</i>, and <i>flexible</i>. It would be much
better if specific acceptable or not acceptable behaviors were
listed. (2) There is no defined procedure on how to report a
problem and what the expected outcome, timeline, or response could
be. (3) There's no defined solution or action such as warning or
temporarily moderating a person to signal bad behavior.</p>
<p>James, you insist on victimizing yourself and have a
confrontational form of writing. Perhaps I'm misreading you.
Please improve your tone. I have only seen vague complaints on the
alleged dispute (<i>"rate of posting and Wiki editing"</i>, and <i>"use
of many paths to achieve your goals"</i>).<br>
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<p>If all of this is because I had the audacity to merge an icon, I
feel your attitude is disproportionate, unfair and itself
sufficient for a complaint. Trying to flag my github profile seems
particularly aggressive and harmful, considering the market use of
such profiles.<br></p></div></blockquote><div>Just didn't just "merged an icon", you ignored all reviewers (actual reviewers), the reviewing process itself and merged it because you were upset (and later granted someone else merge privileges just for the minute it took for this person to merge a previous revert of your commit).<br><br>I haven't found yet a culture where that would be considered respectful or collaborative, so please don't accuse other people of "victimizing" themselves when there are clear aggressive actions on your part.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>
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<p>The trademarked icon has already been reinstated in master
branch, but my valid concern (that neither Sugar Labs nor
downstream distributors have permission to use it), has not been
resolved. I raised the same question openly in 2016, and <a href="http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2016-04-01T19:01:31#i_2864254" target="_blank">you
responded with sarcasm</a>. I don't think this is acceptable.<br>
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<p>At the moment I don't support Laura's motion because I think it's
necessary to write something more specific for Sugar Labs, taking
into consideration the other references listed in the page at the
least.<br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Sebastian<br>
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