<div dir="ltr">Martin Dengler, i am sorry to be bringing this sad news to iaep list. FYI, adam suggested it and put it himself not me.<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 4:14 AM, Adam Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class="">On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>-1 for this motion.<br><br></div>Participation to the GSoC Summit is already a privilege. It's fair that Samson as a mentor could have opportunity to attend to it.<br>I don't see any advantage for SugarLabs on the Samson side trip, so there is no reason for SugarLabs to pay for it.<span class="m_-4919933582283582651gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Lionel,</div><div><br></div><div>While I strongly sympathize (I work with Haitian teachers who don't find it funny that Samson appears willing to let substantially more than $500 disappear, far more than a year's salary for my educator colleagues in Haiti...)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Please, could you look for a flight that can cost only $500 from Nigeria to America? Adam? since we are in the spirit of reducing flight tickets, because i see it as a good idea too to flying $500.</div><div><br></div><div>Because you recently suggest that KLM flies less than $1400 without fulling investigating that it was almost $2000 for that flight. </div><div><br></div><div>Well, Lionel feels that SL should invest money that was meant for travel provided by Google for getting tablets because, Samson is the one traveling. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Still let me still ask: what would you think if Samson approached this with a spirit of compromise, spending $1277.68+190 instead of the earlier desired 1920.82 (1730.82+190) or 2110.22 (1920.22+190) ? In this fashion his 2 side trips would not cost Sugar Labs much at all:<br></div><div><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">$<span class="m_-4919933582283582651gmail-summary-converted-curr-only m_-4919933582283582651gmail-Converted-Currency-Span">1,277.68</span> @ Emirates.com for <a href="https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL</a> Lagos - San Francisco Oct 12/13; Boston - Lagos Oct 21/22<br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">$190 Los Angeles - Boston Oct 15/16<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I gave SFC two flight option either $1730 arriving 4:30pm which might make me late(about 2-3hrs late due to immigration checkings) to the Gsoc summit on friday. Or i could arrive by 2:30pm and be early for the summit.</div><div><br></div><div>Now you are sending me to far middle east which recently Donald Trump ban (all middle east airlines and north Africa) due to potential terrorist attack. Yes they lifted the ban? but remember you are putting me in a tight corner with the U.S immigration officers, are you trying to get me deported? because anything could go wrong with immigration especially when it is my first time travelling outside Africa. Remember i am not a US citizen like most of you, i am holding an ecowas (Nigerian passport) flying from middle east is not good especially when i am traveling for the first time.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So please Adam, i am tired of you suggesting flight from you own end because you are not the one flying it.</div><div><br></div><div>Remember Donald Trump and travel policy especially when it has to do with muslims flight?</div><div><br></div><div>Of course, i would want to spend my layover in Dubai (Nice city and great airport compare to london) but i want avoid immigration questions like... "we saw you flew to Dubai from Lagos, why didn't you take a direct flight or fly via, paris, amsterdam or London which most people do, Are you a terrorist? are you working for ISIS" yeah it is crazy, but i was ask if i was going to bomb united states when i the consular officer was interviewing me for my visa.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="margin-left:40px"></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Nobody appreciates a "planned emergency" like this, when Samson's side
trips could easily have been mentioned in public earlier this summer, instead of forcing everyone to the brink like this with de facto high-pressure sales tactics.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That is not entirely true, because I informed SFC when they ask me for flight option. I mentioned to the them that i am doing to Boston for (with walter for future Turtle Art workshop in Nigeria, and Scratch for 3.0 on Sugar and Sugarizer). The scratch foundation sent me a letter backing up my visa for the purpose. SFC ask SLOBS to approve $2000 for my flight because i gave them series of different options of flight using tripadvisor. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">But let's try to make the best of this obvious disaster and put that behind us.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">If you agree, Samson might be wise to jump on this opportunity immediately instead of arguing for days over a trip that could Very Easily Go Down The Drain (as prices are now rising quickly, with Oct 12 only days away now).<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">In Context: the companies I've worked for across my career would * never *
allow the purchase of intercontinental flights only ~16 days prior to
travel like this, even if Samson's side trips had been mentioned forthrightly a priori (instead of forcing Sugar Labs to the brink, and costing us money with ever-rising flight costs...)</div></div></div></blockquote><div><b>Adam, 4 questions for you anything you will say or suggest is what i will discuss with SFC</b></div><div><br></div><div><b>I am schedule to meet with SFC today concerning my flight. So adam what are your points? are you trying to send my to middle east and label as a potential terrorist (i filled in my form that i am not terrorist when applying and was ask at the US embassy if i am a terrorist), remember i am traveling to the U.S for the first time? (emirate flight?)</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Or i fly British airways arriving 4:30pm(could be late for friday's meeting in SF because of immigration) under $1730 (i prefer this too, so i am totally fine with these flight)?</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Or fly British airways arriving 2:30pm (early for friday's meeting) under $1920 ?</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>or wait for you to suggest another flight as you have been doing?</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Remember you mention last time that SL cannot afford to risk money to get my a visa? Thankfully, you introduce someone that loan me the money for visa.</b></div><div><br></div><div>So now Sugar labs is trying to not risk money for travel too? which i believe google donated for travel?</div><div><br></div><div><b>As walter suggested, He said our cut from the mentor's bonus could be add to this trip. I find it sad? but hy, i am use to this.</b></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div>
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