<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>El sept 25, 2017, a las 00:01, Ryan Cunningham <<a href="mailto:levantamos.para.unir@gmail.com">levantamos.para.unir@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><div>Correction:</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>My opinion is that Sugar Labs shouldn't approve trips not having to do with official business of Sugar Labs; the Software Freedom Conservancy; One Laptop per Child; an OLPC client organization; <b>*Google Inc., or its parent company, Alphabet Inc.*</b> (only for Sugar Labs' participation in the Google Code-In and Google Summer of Code); the Fedora Project; Red Hat, Inc.; the Linux Foundation; Linus Torvalds; or any other third-party individual or company that provides software to Sugar Labs.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Speaking of that, would these trips have anything to do with such official business?</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><div>-- </div>Enviado desde mi iPod</div><div><br>El sept 24, 2017, a las 23:27, Martin Dengler <<a href="mailto:martin@martindengler.com">martin@martindengler.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">How many votes would it take to change the tagline of IAEP to “It’s An Education Project (not a travel agency!)”?</span><br><br><div>Martin</div><div><br></div><div>(Not directed at Caryl personally - this whole thread comes off as pretty far from SL’s mission to this observer. It should be internal IMHO.)</div><div><br>On 24 Sep 2017, at 23:39, Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <div>Ed and I would love to host Samson in LA for a couple of days between Google and Boston. Kayak is showing the one way ticket at $111 at the time he can fly (evening). We will get that ticket for him if the rest of his trip is approved.</div> <div id="AppleMailSignature">Caryl<br> <br> Sent from my iPhone</div> <div><br> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"> <div> <div> <div><br> </div> -1 for this motion.<br> <br> </div> Participation to the GSoC Summit is already a privilege. It's fair that Samson as a mentor could have opportunity to attend to it.<br> I don't see any advantage for SugarLabs on the Samson side trip, so there is no reason for SugarLabs to pay for it.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> </font></span></div> </div> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>Lionel,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>While I strongly sympathize (I work with Haitian teachers who don't find it funny that Samson appears willing to let substantially more than $500 disappear, far more than a year's salary for my educator colleagues in Haiti...)</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Still let me still ask: what would you think if Samson approached this with a spirit of compromise, spending $1277.68+190 instead of the earlier desired 1920.82 (1730.82+190) or 2110.22 (1920.22+190) ? In this fashion his 2 side trips would not cost Sugar Labs much at all:<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div style="margin-left:40px">$<span class="gmail-summary-converted-curr-only gmail-Converted-Currency-Span">1,277.68</span> @ <a href="http://Emirates.com">Emirates.com</a> for <a href="https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL"> https://goo.gl/flights/5WpL</a> Lagos - San Francisco Oct 12/13; Boston - Lagos Oct 21/22<br> </div> <div style="margin-left:40px">$190 Los Angeles - Boston Oct 15/16<br> </div> </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote">Nobody appreciates a "planned emergency" like this, when Samson's side trips could easily have been mentioned in public earlier this summer, instead of forcing everyone to the brink like this with de facto high-pressure sales tactics.</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote">But let's try to make the best of this obvious disaster and put that behind us.<br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote">If you agree, Samson might be wise to jump on this opportunity immediately instead of arguing for days over a trip that could Very Easily Go Down The Drain (as prices are now rising quickly, with Oct 12 only days away now).<br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote">In Context: the companies I've worked for across my career would * never * allow the purchase of intercontinental flights only ~16 days prior to travel like this, even if Samson's side trips had been mentioned forthrightly a priori (instead of forcing Sugar Labs to the brink, and costing us money with ever-rising flight costs...)</div> <div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br> <span>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)</span><br> <span><a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a></span><br> <span><a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></span></div> </blockquote> </div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)</span><br><span><a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)</span><br><span><a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a></span></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></body></html>