<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-">2017-09-22 15:30 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778m_8811622215088387340gmail-h5"><div><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Given the problems we have had in maintaining the membership list -- long standing contributors such as Martin removed -- I don't think it is a reliable metric for contributor. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><br></span><div>MEC is working very hard to maintain the membership list in good shape and avoid "problems". It is part of the Committee's regular tasks to "reviews the membership list for currency once per year".<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Sugar Labs membership is an spacial status and has privileges like the voting participation.<br><br>It has been expressed by many members it should be our goal to increase this metric<br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div class="gmail_quote">I would like evidence of this assertion.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br><br><a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>2016_Goals</a><br><ul><li>"9.1. to develop a supporting members list, by making a 'super list' with as many possible members as possible, such as from <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:LastUserLogin" title="Special:LastUserLogin" target="_blank">Special:LastUserLogin</a> (admins only) and mailman and <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List" title="Sugar Labs/Members/List" target="_blank">Sugar_Labs/Members/List</a>;"</li></ul></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In what way is this evidence that there are "problems" other than the purging of members from the list? And where is the backup to your statement that "many members" have the goal to increase the metric for membership?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br> </div><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote">Anyhow am giving up my mission to help Sugar Labs define this procedure "Cash Advance - Travel Policy Exemption Request". We don't have any successful case to study.<br></div><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Not until the reason for Ignacio's cash advance to be denied by Conservancy is shared openly we will have enough information to document this procedure.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I guess you have not read the repeated emails on this topic that I have sent. We have lots of work we can do as members of the oversight board to define our internal policies before worrying about the SFC side of the equation.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I have read and I agree in many terms.<br><br></div><div>My concern is that if Ignacio US$350 cash advance request did not get a positive answer from Conservancy, what needs ot be improved from our side?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I outlined my concerns about our internal process in the wiki entry you deleted [1]. I reiterated them in my email earlier this week [2] I will reiterate one detail again here.</div><div><br></div>(2) The oversight board will discuss the request and may ask for<br>clarification. The criteria for approval include:<br><br>* availability of funds<br>* ???<br><br>IMHO the oversight board owes it to both Samson and the community to articulate the criteria for denying such requests. Again, we need to get our internal house in order before fretting about the SFC internals.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">[1] <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Procedures&type=revision&diff=100691&oldid=100689">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Procedures&type=revision&diff=100691&oldid=100689</a></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>[2] <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2017-September/020168.html">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2017-September/020168.html</a> </div><div><br></div><div>-walter</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>Regards<span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Laura<br><br></div></font></span><div><div class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-walter </div></font></span><div><div class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>regards.<span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Laura<br></div></font></span><span><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778m_8811622215088387340gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-walter</div></font></span><span class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778m_8811622215088387340gmail-"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div></div><span>-- <br><div class="gmail-m_-3687141800128412169gmail-m_674498958717859710gmail-m_-2697024061657461778m_8811622215088387340gmail-m_-5477041256965485886m_-9119986287199500075gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Laura V.<br><font color="#ff00ff"><b>
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I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div><div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><br>“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” </span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ L. Victoria</span></font><br><br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">Happy Learning!<br>#LearningByDoing</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#Projects4good</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#IDesignATSugarLabs<br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#WeCanDoBetter</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div><div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><br>“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” </span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ L. Victoria</span></font><br><br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">Happy Learning!<br>#LearningByDoing</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#Projects4good</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#IDesignATSugarLabs<br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#WeCanDoBetter</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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