<div dir="ltr">Good day James,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thank you for the feedback and the instructions.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-19 21:04 GMT-05:00 James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">For the proposed agenda [1];<br>
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a. Upgrading Sugar UI; could you please be more specific about what<br>
you want the design team to do? This will encourage participation,<br>
although it looks like one of the design team may be challenged by the<br>
date you have chosen.<br></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Sugar Labs community has made several efforts to keep Sugar development packages up to date.<span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-"> Unfortunately
(for users) the design of the user interface (UI) and the care for the user
experience (UX) has not been significantly improved over the years.</span><span class="gmail-"> For 5 years, the Sugar design team has been dormant.<br></span></span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><br><span>This is the trend I plan to reverse. <br><br></span></span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-">Sugar Labs needs an active Design Team taking care of Sugar UI and UX (</span></span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-">affective aspects of usage). </span></span><b><br><br></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b>My proposal is to reactivate the Sugar Design Team and lead it to an upgraded Sugar User Interface and Sugar User Experience.<br></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Our main focus needs to be maximizing Sugar and Sugar Web usability (understanding usability as the degree to which Sugar can be used to
achieve quantified objectives with effectiveness, efficiency, and
satisfaction in a quantified context of use).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Today's meeting will be a first exploration of who is interested in this matter and how we can all work together. <br><br>I'll try to call for a weekly Sugar Team design meeting.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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b. Elimination of gender selection [2]; remove this agenda item, as<br>
it is not a design issue. There is already reasonable consensus that<br>
this should be eliminated and left as a GSetting for any deployment<br>
that needs the feature, so could you please make a pull request for<br>
code review? I never did like it myself, but Gonzalo and Walter had a<br>
customer require it. That customer no longer uses Sugar.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Where the Sugar User Experience starts is totally part of the Sugar User Experience design. <br><br>Design is not just about eliminating here and there, we need to rethink the whole experience from start to end so that children really benefit from the Sugar and/or Sugar Web experience. <br><br><div>That said for this case, I plan to follow your procedure instructions.<br><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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c. Modify main icons; remove this agenda item, as it is not a design<br>
issue. As a patch already exists, please port it to master branch,<br>
prepare it as a pull request for review and merging. Being able to<br>
change icon shape as well as colour would be a great improvement.<br></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">How the Sugar UI looks like is also part of the Sugar Experience design.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>I'll keep this one also in the agenda just because we need to be open to other proposals for the "by default" main icon (s) and/or the logic to define the initial icon and define curse of action and responsible parties to make the calls. <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Please also add a [DESIGN] tag to the subject, which is part of our<br>
mailing list policy for sugar-devel@ [3]. By omitting the tag, some<br>
design team members may have missed your meeting announcement, and<br>
this would be unfair to them.<br>
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Thanks.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I did. <br><br>Again, thanks for your feedback.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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References:<br>
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1. <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Meetings" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Design_Team/Meetings</a><br>
2. <a href="https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/770" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/sugarlabs/<wbr>sugar/issues/770</a><br>
3. <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/<wbr>listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br>
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