<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"><div><div>Dear All,</div><div>I once requested for the handle on these Nigerian translations and was told it was not yet in the main build, so I guess this is the main obstacle in the way of learners accessing the contents, it is important if we can have those two translations all possible publicly available builds, so that people like us can make case for their use in many fora in Nigeria.</div><div><br></div><div>I support any effort in this direction. +1</div><div><br></div><div>Regards!</div><div>David<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_7484570040" class="yahoo_quoted"><div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"><div>On Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 12:22:02 PM GMT+1, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id="yiv8459680017"><html><div><div><div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote">On Jun 13, 2017 1:58 AM, "Laura Vargas" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Samson,<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none">It is so sad that you have decided not to second the motion to support an XO build that includes the Yoruba and Igbo translations. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>After US$ 4,000, almost a year that translations were completed, and an extensive list of voluntary hours invested from many members of the community, such translations have reached 0 learners! please explain openly.<br clear="none"></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div>First, there was a motion. So we can't attend to both. One has to go first.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I second the motion. I have been working on getting the translations to the learners. But if we are to do this.. we should also focus on Sugar on Stick too.</div><div><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div><br clear="none">I hope this is not the story you plan to share with other communities as it will make SL community sound like a group of crazy people.<br clear="none"></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div>I don't understand this statement, but if it is possible i would like to work with you to make this possible. We can come up with a better plan to market this build.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I and walter are already working on workshops in nigeria. So it is okay by me.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I second the motion.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div><br clear="none"></div>Regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Laura V<br clear="none"></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div>Thanks Laura.</div><div><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv8459680017yqt0475081388" id="yiv8459680017yqtfd64511"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv8459680017elided-text"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><div class="yiv8459680017yqt0475081388" id="yiv8459680017yqtfd49988"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote">2017-06-06 15:05 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div><br clear="none">Samson, <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>It is nice to hear there is interest in the build directly from Nigeria :D<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">I don't think there is any conflict of interest for you to second this motion so we can start defining the work to be done.<br clear="none"></div><div><div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards and blessings<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>laura v<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_extra"><div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-h5"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote">2017-06-05 8:40 GMT-05:00 David Ally <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:david_ally@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:david_ally@yahoo.com">david_ally@yahoo.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"><div><div>Dear Samson,</div><div>Yes, I am a Nigerian, I grew up in<i> </i>Lagos and had all my schooling in Lagos, Primary, Secondary, Polytechnic and University in Lagos.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I left Lagos in 1993, and now based in Abuja.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have a gmail account <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dade.ally@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dade.ally@gmail.com">dade.ally@gmail.com</a>, we can link up on Hangout. It will be nice to talk about the proposed Sugar in Nigeria.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards!</div><span class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div>David <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-h5"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yahoo_quoted_7463452005"><div style=""><div>On Saturday, June 3, 2017, 5:33:44 PM GMT+1, Samson Goddy <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>> wrote:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div id="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672"><div><div dir="ltr">Are you a Nigerian?<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Me too, this is going to be my third time coming to lagos. I have been living in Port Harcourt, how did you propose we discuss? i am mostly available via Google Hangout? i and walter are planning workshop around Sugar in Nigeria soon. Maybe you can be of help too then we will talk about other things.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Samson</div></div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672yqt6098324528" id="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672yqt06716"><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 5:17 PM, David Ally <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:david_ally@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:david_ally@yahoo.com">david_ally@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"><div><div><div>I am based in Abuja, I hardly come around to Lagos, even though I grew up in Lagos. I plan to visit Lagos State University this month to meet with the President of Linguistic Association of Nigeria, I am not sure if I can plan the trip to coincide with your presence in Lagos, either way let's share some thought on this translation project please.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I should be in the US in July for about 3weeks, if there is any important event relating to this I could find time to attend.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards!</div><div>David<br clear="none"></div> </div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672m_905999353196859692yahoo_quoted" id="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672m_905999353196859692yahoo_quoted_7206968279"><div style=""><div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672h5"><div>On Saturday, June 3, 2017, 5:05:44 PM GMT+1, Chris Leonard <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="yiv8459680017m_-4840525551101520666gmail-m_2431462576189273060gmail-m_460927380260053869yiv3282217672h5">On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Laura Vargas <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">>> > So, I propose the following Motion:<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > SL will allocate a budget of US$TBD for "professional services" required<br clear="none">>> > to<br clear="none">>> > create a fitable image for Samson's and Ibiam's young XO partners in<br clear="none">>> > Africa.<br clear="none">>> > SL will make an open call to the mailing list to find one or more<br clear="none">>> > professional to do it.<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > Hope we can start using SL money to actually outreach Sugar learners!<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> The PO files have been committed to the relevant repos and as new<br clear="none">>> Activity releases have been made (thanks Quozl for your recent<br clear="none">>> Fructose push) they have been made available via ASLO. It is true<br clear="none">>> that a build of the core UI strings would be needed, but I thought<br clear="none">>> that might come via a new SOAS release.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Are you proposing a custom build for Nigeria?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Yes.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> If so, I would request that OLPC switch desktop PO file for Igbo be<br clear="none">>> completed before such an attempt was made.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I understand there would be technical and academic considerations in order<br clear="none">> to detail the work to be done. I hope you can guide the execution from the<br clear="none">> translation's POV.<br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Of course, I would welcome the opportunity to assist.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> The objective of the motion is to define if it is worth to rescue all the<br clear="none">> work and investment (community's time and money) done last year by Sugar<br clear="none">> Labs on Samson's and Ibiam's line of work.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">A funded project for a single-purpose build would not be as valuable<br clear="none">as adding a component to it that included improving documentation (and<br clear="none">possibly toolchain) of the custom-build process in such a way that it<br clear="none">is more easily repeated by others. That way it is an investment in a<br clear="none">repeatable process, not a single product. 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