<div dir="auto">We dont have funds for that, at least not for two. Remember we will be traveling air to Lagos, stay in Lagos for at least one day. <div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">Pay for visa and visa processing, the scratch team can only fund one person for that purpose. So that why we did that proposal.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">I said around 744 euros for that process and i explained the reason for it in the proposal. Based on my calls with the Consulate in Lagos.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On May 21, 2017 8:22 AM, "Tony Anderson" <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No matter the rules, Ibiam will need a visa in his passport before the air tickets can be purchased. So my advice remains, get the visas as soon as you can. If you can get them by mid-June, you will have a month to purchase the tickets and make other travel arrangements. Train travel in France is quick, comfortable and less expensive that air. So consider when you get your tickets adding some days for sight-seeing. My recommendation is to fly to DeGaulle and take the train from there (the train is station is in the terminal) to Bordeaux (round-trip). On your return you can fly from deGaulle. Tony On 05/21/2017 02:55 PM, <a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Send IAEP mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of IAEP digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt) (Samson Goddy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2017 07:55:23 +0100 From: Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> To: Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> Cc: Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com" target="_blank">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>>, iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt) Message-ID: <CAFN_48-Lw0j30BE3505DYEsrdChp6XmGJV2_Vomd=<a href="mailto:vicMSid_A@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">vicMSid_A@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thank you Tony, you just explained everything. But one problem Adam and Laura outlined that SFC have some rules, i don't know if someone can communicate with them. Samson On May 21, 2017 5:13 AM, "Tony Anderson" <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> The only advice is to get busy with the visa application. It takes a minimum of 15 days to process. The step by step is outlined on those websites. The main point it that they must spend a day in Lagos up front filling out the visa application. In my experience this is like renewing a driver's license - you don't make an appointment, you just go there and follow the instructions. They can find out before they go to Lagos what they need to bring: passport, birth certificate, extra passport photos and so on. They will then to return to Lagos to get the completed visa (normally the passport is kept by the consulate during the 15 days). Personally, since we seem to be willing to fund individuals for past contributions to Sugar Labs, I think the contributions of Samson and Ibiam are indisputable. It should be funded on that basis alone. Tony On 05/21/2017 11:14 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Tony, These two guys seem to have their acts together on this one but are having difficulty getting it approved because people feel they may not be able to get all their "ducks in a row" in time to make it happen. If there is any help you can give them... advice, people to talk to to get it ready etc. it would be really great. They still lack one SLOB vote for approval. Too bad Samson can't vote for his own proposal 😏 Caryl ------------------------------ *From:* IAEP <<a href="mailto:iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-bounces@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> on behalf of Tony Anderson <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:49:05 PM *To:* <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt) Samson and Ibiam will need a Shengen visa (<a href="https://buzznigeria.com/schengen-visa/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://buzznigeria.com/schengen-visa/</a>). This is handled by the Consulate of France in Nigeria in Lagos (<a href="http://www.vfsglobal.com/France/Nigeria/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.vfsglobal.com/France/Nigeria/</a>) I would recommend they add a couple of days to the trip to visit Paris. They could fly to Paris de Gaulle, take the train to Bordeaux (leaves from the terminal) and then return by train from Bordeaux. OLPC France plans to have some folks there who can help with the arrangements. I expect to be there as well. Tony On 05/21/2017 01:49 AM, <a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Send IAEP mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep-owner@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of IAEP digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 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Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Chihurumnaya Ibiam) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 13:29:47 -0400 From: Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> To: iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, SLOBs </blockquote> <<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference Message-ID: <CAHaBuGdL4TFRWCnib=QuZH7ZUEa_e6QQChZLA+Bp0Bw17He+VA@mail. </blockquote> <a href="http://gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>> <CAHaBuGdL4TFRWCnib=<a href="mailto:QuZH7ZUEa_e6QQChZLA%2BBp0Bw17He%2BVA@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">QuZH7ZUEa_e6QQChZLA+Bp0Bw17He+VA@mail.gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> </blockquote> <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> </blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts / diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> contact <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> will <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> be approved? </blockquote> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point. </blockquote> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the </blockquote> French <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> government might be the best way. 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance, <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> reassuring <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> event. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later if nothing goes wrong with the visa? </blockquote> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it. </blockquote> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, what <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> share? <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I don't understand, could you explain more. </blockquote> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a more permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, <a href="http://scratch.mit.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scratch.mit.edu</a> and/or a formal report? (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to specify what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not </blockquote> just <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> social media, but that could be one part of it!) <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has offered <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> to contribute? </blockquote> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), hotel, foods and visa. </blockquote> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/</a> </blockquote> 20170520/9b68b540/attachment-0001.html> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 18:33:51 +0100 From: Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>> </blockquote> <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> To: Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> Cc: iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, SLOBs </blockquote> <<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference Message-ID: <CAFN_488oV-9MLaMHQyJbxCk3NXvqVauRqujyvQ6p </blockquote> <a href="mailto:g9W7px_Jkw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">g9W7px_Jkw@mail.gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:CAFN_488oV-9MLaMHQyJbxCk3NXvqVauRqujyvQ6pg9W7px_Jkw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAFN_488oV-9MLaMHQyJbxCk3NXvqVauRqujyvQ6pg9W7px_Jkw@mail.gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> </blockquote> <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> </blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend. Likely an individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas approved? Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts / diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> contact <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> will <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> be approved? </blockquote> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point. </blockquote> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved. A single applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the </blockquote></blockquote> French <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> government might be the best way. 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in </blockquote></blockquote> advance, <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear. Not </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> reassuring <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> event. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> if <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> nothing goes wrong with the visa? </blockquote> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it. </blockquote> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. </blockquote> Sure i am going to do that. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, </blockquote></blockquote> what <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> share? <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I don't understand, could you explain more. </blockquote> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a </blockquote></blockquote> more <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, <a href="http://scratch.mit.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scratch.mit.edu</a> and/or a formal report? (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to </blockquote></blockquote> specify <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not </blockquote></blockquote> just <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> social media, but that could be one part of it!) </blockquote> we will document on our wiki page/ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> offered <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> to contribute? </blockquote> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> hotel, <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> foods and visa. </blockquote> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? I will have to contact the team about that too. </blockquote> You will hear from me soon. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </blockquote> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A single applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the </blockquote></blockquote> French <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> government might be the best way. </blockquote> We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the </blockquote> French <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> government, aside that we know there is no guarantee that it will be granted neither is there any that it'll not be granted. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved. </blockquote> We'll talk with the organizer and see if he has any contact with the </blockquote> French <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> government. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a </blockquote></blockquote> more <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO, <a href="http://scratch.mit.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://scratch.mit.edu</a> and/or a formal report? (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to </blockquote></blockquote> specify <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not </blockquote></blockquote> just <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> social media, but that could be one part of it!) </blockquote> This was in an email i received from the Scratch2017bdx committee *HAL* If your proposal has an accompanying paper or poster that you wish to add to the academic archives, our partner INRIA can publish it in a Scratch2017BDX section at HAL. HAL is an open archive where authors can deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields. For this, please </blockquote> fill <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> out the form at <a href="http://scratch2017bdx.org/en/hal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">scratch2017bdx.org/en/hal</a> If that helps. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD? </blockquote> They want to share the responsibility with Sugar Labs, they already have </blockquote> a <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> budget for the event but every money is virtual at the moment, they are working it out. 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