<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello laura,</div><div><br></div>Sorry laura, i still don't understand your comment too. I think what lionel was trying to point of to me was that strict policy for the visa, which i later pointed out that we already know the process. Secondly, lionel also mentioned that his team can also represent Sugar/Sugarizer which i don't understand his reason for it. But i will say it again, I and Ibiam was invited and secondly was given the ability to take the stage in bordeaux to share our stories. <div><br></div><div>We were invited not just because we were from Sugar Labs, because everyone coming to Bordeaux all at least will be giving a talk on stage are either talking about Scratch or giving a related story around Logo programming language. </div><div><br></div><div>I don't see scratch in Sugarizer, correct me if i am wrong. Scratch is not even available for Sugar also currently. I and Ibiam was chosen because we started using Scratch and Turtle Art when we were 11 and 12 years old respectively. We did projects with these tools while we were in junior high. We also happen to use the OLPC device and more important i and ibiam are both scratch educators in our country, so that is the reason why we were chosen to come give a talk.</div><div><br></div><div>This is not my first trip related to the bordeaux conference, i did travel to Nairobi without Sugar Labs support i didn't mail to ask for any fund. But i represented Sugar Labs anyways, you can go to my facebook page and see some pictures you both would. While in Nairobi, i spoke with the main organizer of the Scratch bordeaux and gave him my reasons why i would like to add Sugar Labs projects to my talk. I had to write a proposal, and we were selected. So that how important this trip is to us.</div><div><br></div><div>For SFC see [1], frankly speaking i have read the policy again one more time, i don't see anything that stand against this proposal for moving further. SFC will do the booking themselves for hotel and tickets. The ticket is not greater than $1,500, but it is under $1,500. But we both need about 1,033 euros in cash that if SFC can book the hotel themselves also, if not we will have to book the hotel ourselves. We are not applying for <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><b>Reimbursement Procedure.</b></span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre">i don't see any reason why the proposal is receiving these comments. We are equally trying to do</span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre">outreaching program for this community, but i am little disappointed.</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre"> I also see that this community</span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre">is slowly becoming something else.</span></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Lucida Console",Consolas,Monaco,Inconsolata,"Liberation Mono",monospace;font-size:12px;white-space:pre">[1] </span><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><a href="https://k.sfconservancy.org/policies/files/master/Travel/conservancy-travel-policy.txt#L47">https://k.sfconservancy.org/policies/files/master/Travel/conservancy-travel-policy.txt#L47</a> </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre">BR</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Lucida Console, Consolas, Monaco, Inconsolata, Liberation Mono, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;white-space:pre">Samson</span></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:46 AM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'll follow Lionel's lead on this one. Fossil fuels traveling these days should be avoided..<br><br></div><div>Additionally, SLOB's should be clear with the community and highlight the fact that according to current Software Freedom Conservancy travel policies no cash advance can be approved for members. <br><br><br></div><div>This is the same reason that made Ignacio's request rejected by the Conservancy.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If we need a change in the Software Freedom Conservancy travel policy, we should appoint our representative to discuss the options with the Conservancy.<br><br><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-19 16:17 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Should we take your comment as "-1" to the proposal?<div><br></div><div>BR</div><span class="m_-8465194391136640723HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Samson</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Lionel Laské <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>I'm not for the idea:</div><div>- It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do, the come from France - compared to Nigeria.</div><div>- Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government is sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.</div><span class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div> Lionel.</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignacio@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ignacio@sugarlabs.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P<br><br>But as I already said, its +1 from me</div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I second.<span class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sameer</div></font></span></div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239elided-text">On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">samsongoddy@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239elided-text"><div dir="ltr">Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that since wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member in this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, so that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days policy.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><span class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Samson Goddy</div></font></span></div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignacio@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ignacio@sugarlabs.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone<div><br></div><div>It's +1 from me :)<br>I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are doing, awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ignacio.-</div></div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729m_6080264892381352715HOEnZb"><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729m_6080264892381352715h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avni@kidsoncomputers.org" target="_blank">avni@kidsoncomputers.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal. +1</div><div><div class="m_-8465194391136640723m_-6322121545588898980m_-644973392558293285m_6913562566484408756m_7181955196351797030m_-8631537384720306239m_-92557402255327729m_6080264892381352715m_960208875067049078h5"><div><br>On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho <<a href="mailto:cbigenho@hotmail.com" target="_blank">cbigenho@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div>This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not a member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.</div>
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