<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-28 16:06 GMT-05:00 D. Joe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sugarlabs@etrumeus.com" target="_blank">sugarlabs@etrumeus.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 04:52:05PM +0000, Caryl Bigenho wrote:<br>
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> Second... when you reply to an email, unless it is private SLOB business,<br>
> please be sure you have included iaep in the addresses.<br>
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I would say: Include IAEP if it's IAEP business (and yes, so long as its<br>
IAEP business suitable for public consumption). We've seen a *lot* of<br>
crossposting recently between IAEP and sugar-devel that probably wasn't<br>
necessary, and raises the noise floor on both sides. It's always possible to<br>
forward something later, it's effectively impossible to unsend something<br>
(the growing pile of ineffective "recall" messages I've accumulated<br>
over the years notwithstanding).<br>
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> Otherwise your messages look blank to everyone who isn't a SLOB member.<br>
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I have no idea what this means. If you're not on the list of direct<br>
recipients (via any of the To:, Cc:, or Bcc: headers), and you're not a<br>
recipient via your subscriptions to one or more of the targetted mailing<br>
lists, you should see nothing at all.<br>
<br>
Seeing a "blank" message sounds like an error at some point in the mail<br>
delivery or display functions and less a question of addressing.<br>
<br>
You should either get the message, in full, or not at all.<br>
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> Please understand, goals are NOT the same as objectives. They are much more<br>
> general. Objectives are designed to help achieve the goals and have a definite<br>
> form... who will do what by when, how will it be done and how will success be<br>
> measured. Goals do NOT have these elements!<br>
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I would be much less inclined to reject outright prescriptive pronouncements<br>
like this if they were couched in some sort of context indicating in which<br>
school or schools of thought these words ("objectives", "goals") have these<br>
peculiar and limited meanings.<br>
<br>
The words have commonly understood usage that stray far beyond the<br>
strictures of the above assertions. I expect I'm not alone in my<br>
inclination to apply common usage.<br>
<br>
If one wants to make a case for working within a particular framework, then<br>
by all means do, but assuming the framework and making declarations from<br>
within it short-circuits a lot of the opportunity to build a common<br>
understanding.<br>
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It seems particularly incongruous within a constructionist organization to<br>
make declarations like this.<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>I just wanted to make clear that Sugar Labs community welcomes and encourages the exchange of ideas among all it's members but that doesn't mean we -as an organization- endorse those ideas.<br><br></div><div>Caryl, <br><br></div><div>That said, I do agree the "instructionist tone" and "working without a particular framework" are improper for our community of learners.<br> <br></div><div>I hope you can take the feedback as an opportunity for improvement.<br><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards and blessings,<br>Laura V<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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D. Joe<br>
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