<div dir="auto">I abstain as I see real arguments on both sides, and apologize I am torn.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 21, 2017 3:49 PM, "Walter Bender" <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>As I have come to understand I, Laura was ineligible to vote according to the <span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:pre-wrap">Conflict of Interest Policy of Conservancy.</span></div><div><br class="m_-5177950297197367536m_4139148168535646125gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">So, we had 6 eligible votes with the following results during the voting period by email: <br></div><div><br></div><div>3 votes on favor (Ignacio, Samson and Lionel)</div><div>1 vote against (Walter) </div><div>no votes received from Adam and Sameer (count as abstentions) </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we can wait a bit longer for Adam and Sameer to register their votes.</div><div><br></div><div>-walter </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Since a clear majority on favor is required to pass a Motion[1], Motion has failed.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you all that supported the motion! We hope we'll find some other way.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards and blessings to all,</div><div><br></div><div>Laura V</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision" style="color:rgb(0,101,204);font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/<wbr>Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-5177950297197367536h5">2017-04-17 10:42 GMT-05:00 Ignacio Rodríguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignacio@sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">ignacio@sugarlabs.org</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-5177950297197367536h5">Well as I said +1.<br>
<br>
Lets hope everything gets resolved ASAP<br>
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On 4/17/17, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> -1 from me. It seems an arbitrary and unscalable request.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Ignacio, I believe you'll need to state your vote again :D<br>
>><br>
>> Since I am the requesting party, my vote will be "abstain".<br>
>><br>
>> For all other slobs that haven't vote yet: Adam, Sameer and Walter,<br>
>> please<br>
>> keep in mind motions need to be voted on via email within 7 days of<br>
>> posting.<br>
>><br>
>> In case any of you slobs require additional information please do ask on<br>
>> time.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Laura V<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2017-04-13 9:07 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <<a href="mailto:samsongoddy@gmail.com" target="_blank">samsongoddy@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>>> +1 for me.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Apr 13, 2017 11:25 AM, "Lionel Laské" <<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Motion: Urgent maintenance budget of 500$ for fixing spam attacks on<br>
>>>> Sugar Network. Detail of the tasks to do are described in the Technical<br>
>>>> Service Request provided by Laura. It's an one shot motion to avoid<br>
>>>> interruption of service for Sugar Network users. Further investments on<br>
>>>> Sugar Network will be correlated to discussion about long-term support<br>
>>>> of<br>
>>>> the platform.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Please second this motion to start the vote.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best regards.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Lionel.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2017-04-12 14:22 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Thank you Lionel, Samson and Ignacio!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The formal procedure requires a SLOB to propose "A motion" and then<br>
>>>>> another SLOB to second it. In this way all other SLOBs will understand<br>
>>>>> they<br>
>>>>> are called to vote.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I would appreciate if you guys can do this.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Blessings and regards<br>
>>>>> Laura V<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 2017-04-09 11:36 GMT-05:00 Lionel Laské <<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com" target="_blank">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I'm agree with the idea to think to the long-term but I think we<br>
>>>>>> can't<br>
>>>>>> leave loyal Sugar user without their tools.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> So +1 to process this TSR considering we can't process other requests<br>
>>>>>> without thinking to the long term support of Sugar Network.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Lionel.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> 2017-04-08 16:39 GMT+02:00 Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>>:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Once we solve the urgent need to neutralize Spam attacks, I would<br>
>>>>>>> love to open the discussion for long-term support.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:34 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Laura Vargas<br>
>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>> > wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> We have supported Sugar Network on a voluntary basis without<br>
>>>>>>>>> retribution since it's deployment on 2014. Unfortunately we ran out<br>
>>>>>>>>> of<br>
>>>>>>>>> resources and can't afford to dedicate the required time.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> This begs the question, what is next? How will the next issue be<br>
>>>>>>>> resolved? It seems a long-term solution should be discussed as<br>
>>>>>>>> opposed to a<br>
>>>>>>>> one-time patch.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Laura<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-08 9:24 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com" target="_blank">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> This document helps clarify what work needs to be done. What is<br>
>>>>>>>>>> not clear to me is why this is work that needs to be funded as<br>
>>>>>>>>>> opposed to<br>
>>>>>>>>>> being done by volunteers.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> -walter<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Laura Vargas <<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> As per SLOB's request in yesterday's meeting, I'm attaching the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Network urgent maintenance project proposal.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this documents covers all the information required by<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> SLOB's to make a decision.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards from the Peruvian Amazon forest,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laura<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-04-02 23:58 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Community members, Oversight Board Members and Free<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Conservancy Staff,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to add the following request to the upcoming<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> April's Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
</div></div>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our dear *Sugar Network is in #urgent need of maintenance*.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Due the the recurrent *spam attacks *we have had during<br>
<div><div class="m_-5177950297197367536m_4139148168535646125h5">>>>>>>>>>>>> previous months, and due to the fact that we are serving a large<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> group of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> active users during the local school year, I'm hereby requesting<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> funds to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> perform the following technical services:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - The addition of a "Captcha" identifier for the 3 main forms.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Clean the Spam comments<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Active users this could help: +40,000<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Name of who is actually doing the work: Luis Sebastian Silva,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura Victoria Vargas<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Funds required: USD $500<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I openly declare the existence of conflict of interest<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with any funding request presented by me and/or my<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> husband as<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> long as I continue serving as a Sugar Labs Oversight Board<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> member.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Notwithstanding the above, I understand Conservancy<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> acknowledges<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that many PLC (Project Leadership Committee) Persons are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> technical service<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> contractors and therefore it would be doable for the Sugar Labs<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oversight<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Board to approve the required funds.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the Software Freedom Conservancy Conflict of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest Policy, a conflicted PLC Person must abstain from and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> must not<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hear nor read the pre-vote discussions of the matter.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
</div></div>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore* I will not vote nor participate in any pre-vote<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions of this matter.*<br>
<span>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings and thanks in advance!<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 1: Artwork shared at Sugar Network - English Class<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Hilda<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 2: Official Conflict of Interest Policy of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Conservancy<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Attachment 3: Spam Comments on Sugar Network<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>>>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/slobs</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Walter Bender<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”<br>
>>>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Happy Learning!<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>> Walter Bender<br>
>>>>>>>> Sugar Labs<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
</span><span>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”<br>
>>>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Happy Learning!<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>> SLOBs mailing list<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/slobs</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>>>>><br>
>>>>> “No paradox, no progress.”<br>
>>>>> ~ Niels Bohr<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Happy Learning!<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>> SLOBs mailing list<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/slobs</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>> SLOBs mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">SLOBs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis<wbr>tinfo/slobs</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Laura V.<br>
</span>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*<br>
<span>>><br>
>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”<br>
>> ~ Laura Victoria<br>
>><br>
>> Happy Learning!<br>
>> #LaMAgiaDelTiempo<br>
>> #LearningByDoing<br>
>> #Projects4good<br>
>> #IMakeATSugarLabs<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Walter Bender<br>
> Sugar Labs<br>
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I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org</b></font></div></font></span><div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><br><span>“Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.” </span></span></font></div><span><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px"><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif">~ Laura Victoria</span></font><br><br></div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">Happy Learning!</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#LaMAgiaDelTiempo<br>#LearningByDoing</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#Projects4good</div><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8px">#IMakeATSugarLabs</div></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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