<html> <head> <style></style></head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br>Well i think sam is Right. And dave have a point. The microsoft we used to know is not the same company again. MS is really chasing into linux these days(Ubuntu). With their recents bash addition to the windows 10. I think If getting money from Microsoft won't spoil our goal as a community i don't think we should object. The goal of SL is to be in every OS and Microsoft windows is one. So i think we should think about it and discuss the disadvantages and advantage of their funds.<br><br> I think Money is Money though.<br><br><br>Samson Goddy<br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:07:23 +1000<br>From: sam.parkinson3@gmail.com<br>To: dave@lab6.com<br>Subject: Re: [IAEP] Revision 50 of the Sugar Labs Fundraising Committe notes<br>CC: laura@somosazucar.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org<br><br>Well, Google is really one of the biggest non-free software vendors today, so saying yes to google and no to microsoft is very silly.<div><br></div><div>Also, organisations are big. Google makes Google Classroom and Google Apps for Education ("GAFE"), yet still the OSPO gives SL funds.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Sam<br><br>On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:56 AM, Dave Crossland <dave@lab6.com> wrote:<br> <blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">Hi Laura</div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">I'd like to follow up on this thread :) </div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 15 July 2016 at 23:39, Laura Vargas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org" target="_blank">laura@somosazucar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);">- Microsoft</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(238,230,255);"> (laura -1: No private software funds shall get into our accounts!)</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);"> (dave +1: money is money, and almost all the funding sources are private companies; the Nadella Microsoft is very different to the Gates/Ballmer era and is about as ethical as Google, Facebook, Intel, or IBM :)</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(238,230,255);"> </span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);">(</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(238,230,255);">Laura: don't apply, the requirement from grants providers to resonate SL values is not negotiable as it stands for the </span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);">w</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(238,230,255);">hole learning model we are proposing.)</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(217,255,248);"> </span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);">(</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(217,255,248);">Sean -1: No point adding Microsoft or Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to this list.</span><span style="padding-top:1px;padding-bottom:1px;background-color:rgb(255,254,223);">) (Dave: You assert your own values as "SL values", but the observable behaviour of SL and OLPC is not consistent with them. What do you see as the difference between Google and Microsoft? Why does SL take Google's money?)</span></blockquote></div><br>How does Google resonate with SL values more than Microsoft? <br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">Cheers</div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">Dave</div></div> </blockquote></div><br>_______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</div> </div></body> </html>