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    Hi, Adam<br>
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    I don't think this is relevant to this motion. Clearly, if such a
    negotiation were to happen, the Board could move to consider the <br>
    matter in 'executive session'. In the meantime, there is no reason
    not to make votes public (and the discussion of them in the meetings
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    which is already public.)<br>
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    Tony<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/21/2016 05:41 PM, Adam Holt
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      <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Walter Bender <span
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              <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Dave
                Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hi
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                            <div>I would appreciate public consideration
                              of this motion by each member of SLOB.</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 June 2016 at
                                10:00, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                wrote:<br>
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                                  to consider email votes on motions
                                  only valid if they are sent<br>
                                  to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing
                                  lists.<br>
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                            </span><span><font color="#888888">-- <br>
                                <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Cheers<br>
                                  Dave</div>
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                  It is my belief (hope) that the only time a vote is
                  only sent to one list rather than both is when there
                  is an oversight by the sender. Vote should be public,</div>
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            <div>Should but not must.<br>
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              There can be (have been, and might be in future be) times
              when Sugar Labs needs in-the-interim-confidential
              negotiations with billion-dollar sponsor/ally governments
              and orgs or all kinds.<br>
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              Naturally merger/acquisition or multimillion-dollar
              sponsorship situations affect almost everyone, who cannot
              all be at the negotiating table, nor can all Board members
              cannot possibly always agree.<br>
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              Hence it's generally a legal/fiduciary responsibility of
              the Executive Director (or similar) to consult privately
              with the Board in these kinds of high-stakes situations --
              keeping as many as possible apprised of deliberations --
              while preserving interim confidentiality wherever and
              whenever necessary to protect the full/strategic interests
              of 501(c)3 Sugar Labs.<br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">but if the vote is forwarded to
                  both lists after the fact, it should still be valid.</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra">-walter<br clear="all">
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                          <div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br>
                            <font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div>
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