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Hi, Dave<br>
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You still confuse me. Someone who is not on the Board cannot submit
a motion (email or otherwise). I am certainly not aware of any
motion <br>
made by a member of the Board which has not been handled entirely in
public. <br>
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<div>'Since you are on the SLOB list I am not surprised, but since I
am not, how can I know?'<br>
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The meetings of the Board are public. Yes, I am on the SLOBs list,
and I can assure you there is nothing secret happening there. Your
continued <br>
assertions that Board members are somehow deliberately acting
behind the backs of SL members is not helpful. Your assertion that
Board members <br>
are not acting promptly and decisively is not supported by the
record and is also not helpful. <br>
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So far in my tenure, we have had one meeting where there was not a
quorum. This, of course, required action by email vote. Which was
done.<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/21/2016 05:36 AM, Dave Crossland
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 June 2016 at 02:51, Tony
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Could you be specific on the necessary procedural
actions that the Board did not take?<br>
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<div>Consideration of motions visible to Members.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Note that the
Oversight Board/decisions page does not show the GSOC
mentor motion as passed.<br>
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<div>Since it passed it says:</div>
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<div>AGREED MOTION 2016-34 </div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Could you be
specific on instances where the Board voted privately?
Since most of this activity occurs during Board meetings
which are public, and which you frequently attend - I
see nothing private there.</div>
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<div>"Most of this activity occurs during Board meetings" is
factually false, because motions can be posted and
deliberated and voted on via email for 7 days after they
are posted, irrespective of that 7 day period coinciding
with a monthly board meeting, and most recent motions have
been posted via email and not seen any consideration
visible to members from most board members.</div>
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<div>The problem is not that the board has voted completely
privately, but that the board appears not to have voted at
all - yet there is no way of knowing because votes _may_
be cast privately. In the last motion that was voted on,
the GSOC one, Walter told me a private vote and I accept
this on good faith but it is not ideal. Thus my latest
motion. </div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">So you must be
referring to email votes. These are and should be rare.<br>
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<div>I have no idea why you think that. </div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> On the Oversight
Board/decisions page, you should show motions decided by
email vote. The only two I remember were the Quispe
motion and the GSOC motion. I don't remember anything
private in those votes.<br>
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<div>Since you are on the SLOB list I am not surprised, but
since I am not, how can I know?</div>
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<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Cheers<br>
Dave</div>
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