<div dir="ltr">Hola!<div>Estoy de acuerdo con lo que plantean Tony, Claudia.</div><div>Entiendo que el foco debe estar en las nuevas formas de aprender de los niños.</div><div><br></div><div>Saludos</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>___________________<br>Lic. José Miguel García<br>Montevideo - Uruguay</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-06-20 4:23 GMT-03:00 Tony Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi, Dave<br>
<br>
This email is a clear example of the confusion we are having. You
describe it as a mission statement (not a vision statement). <br>
However, your title describes an 'update' to the current Sugar Labs
vision statement. Could you provide the text of what you believe is
the current Sugar Labs vision statement that is to be updated?<br>
<br>
This is the version I was responding to, which seems to be a
re-write by you of Laura's statement:<span class=""><br>
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<div><font size="4">"Sugar Labs is a global community where you can
learn how to design, develop and deploy high-quality </font><span style="font-size:large">Free/Libre</span><span style="font-size:large"> </span>Software that facilitates
self-discovery learning experiences and collaboration among young
children of all continents."<br>
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I disagree completely with this statement as a vision for Sugar
Labs. This makes us sound like a community for training adult
software developers. Our vision needs to be of the educational
advantages which we want our product,Sugar to provide. This
product is designed to facilitate learning by young (grade school)
learners based on ideas from Seymour Papert and Alan Kay.<br>
<br>
I agree strongly that work with and on Sugar can lead to learning
technical computer skills. I try to emphasize that in
presentations and workshops that in the XO, the user has free
access to all of the latest software: using the command line,
building scripts, programming in Python, developing web sites with
HTML, CSS, and Javascript, developing administrative skills in
networking and system maintenance.<br>
However, this is not the <i>ra</i><i>ison d'etre</i> for Sugar.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Tony<br>
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<div>On 06/20/2016 05:29 AM, Dave Crossland
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 19 June 2016 at 13:20, Tony
Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tony_anderson@usa.net" target="_blank">tony_anderson@usa.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Unfortunately, this
is not my vision of Sugar Labs or Sugar. I see Sugar as
an educational opportunity provided to users of the OLPC
XO <br>
and others. Naturally, it takes software engineers to
develop and maintain this software, but the vision must
be about the result - Sugar and the <br>
benefits if offers in an educational setting.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px">Do you think
the existing mission statement that Laura quoted above
conveys this result adequately? </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:12.8px">I am unsure
if you think the mission should be changed, or kept the
same. </div>
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