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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 16/06/16 a las 23:32, Dave Crossland
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<div>When I spoke to Rangan a couple months
ago, he said that there is no demand from
the schools that One Education serves for
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</span> It all depends on your intervention principles.
In education, <b>we see Free Software as the only
ethical and coherent option because it enables
learners to examine and improve the tools we use to
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<div>As a percentage, how many school IT decision makers
agree with you?<br>
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I expect few. Generally, not out of malice. :-)<br>
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<div>What is your strategy for engaging the ones who do not
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To respectfully educate them on the subject.<br>
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The point is we cannot be guided by demand alone. We stand for
something.<br>
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Where there is ignorance there is no demand for knowledge but rather
for entertainment.<br>
Too often people resign their freedom in order to obtain short term
convenience.<br>
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We aim to liberate them rather than submit them to technological
oppression.<br>
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<div>Can you point to any proposals that are
similar to what you have in mind (but
perhaps not 'good,' as you define it...)?</div>
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</span> There are many. I can point to:<br>
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<li>DouDouLinux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html"
target="_blank">http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html</a></li>
<li>Qimu <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.qimo4kids.com/what-is-qimo/"
target="_blank">http://www.qimo4kids.com/what-is-qimo/</a></li>
<li>Trisquel TOAST <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast"
target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast</a></li>
<li>DebianEdu <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/"
target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/</a></li>
<li>Minino <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://minino.galpon.org/" target="_blank">http://minino.galpon.org/</a><br>
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<li>Huayra GNU Linux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://huayra.conectarigualdad.gob.ar/"
target="_blank">http://huayra.conectarigualdad.gob.ar/</a></li>
<li>Canaima GNU Linux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/"
target="_blank">http://www.canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/</a><br>
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<p>They either:</p>
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<li>Don't include / consider Sugar</li>
<li>Are 'all or nothing'</li>
<li>Are hard to base from</li>
<li>Don't run well on classmates [because of
drivers]</li>
<li>Are dead projects or dormant</li>
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<p>We propose development of a common <i> Sugar Blend
</i>as a base for a classmate-class laptop operating
system: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.debian.org/SugarBlend/Huayruro"
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<p>Such a project would overcome the previous
limitations by building on a common base.<br>
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<div>I am reminded a bit of <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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- especially because of DebianEdu. <br>
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<div>Why did you not join one of these projects and
reinvigorate it to address the issues you listed?</div>
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I did! Most of them were done without thinking of replicability or
continuity. I am collaborating from inside Debian (although I
haven't reached Debian Developer status). You'll notice all of the
above have Debian as a base. Plus it's the only active project of
the lot. Jonas and I worked actively on it last year. Sadly the
Ministry of Education of Peru deployed tablets and did not fund the
proposed project. I still think it is needed.<br clear="all">
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<div>In concrete terms, what can be done to work together with
him on this? </div>
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<div>Would you want him to send you a laptop? What else could
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Samples would be nice of course. I would love it if he would commit
to offering Sugar as an option for deployment. It would be even
better if they would commit some resources to making it a practical
option. Sugar Labs should too. I don't think our current software
offering set is adequate and I think this translates into the slow
demand he perceives. No product, no demand. <br>
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Regards,<br>
Sebastian<br>
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