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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 16/06/16 a las 23:32, Dave Crossland
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                          <div>When I spoke to Rangan a couple months
                            ago, he said that there is no demand from
                            the schools that One Education serves for
                            such an image.</div>
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                </span> It all depends on your intervention principles.
                In education, <b>we see Free Software as the only
                  ethical and coherent option because it enables
                  learners to examine and improve the tools we use to
                  learn</b>, or do our jobs.</div>
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            <div>As a percentage, how many school IT decision makers
              agree with you?<br>
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    I expect few. Generally, not out of malice.    :-)<br>
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            <div>What is your strategy for engaging the ones who do not
              agree with you?</div>
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    To respectfully educate them on the subject.<br>
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    The point is we cannot be guided by demand alone. We stand for
    something.<br>
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    Where there is ignorance there is no demand for knowledge but rather
    for entertainment.<br>
    Too often people resign their freedom in order to obtain short term
    convenience.<br>
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    We aim to liberate them rather than submit them to technological
    oppression.<br>
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                            <div>Can you point to any proposals that are
                              similar to what you have in mind (but
                              perhaps not 'good,' as you define it...)?</div>
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                  </span> There are many. I can point to:<br>
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                    <li>DouDouLinux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html"
                        target="_blank">http://www.doudoulinux.org/web/english/index.html</a></li>
                    <li>Qimu <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.qimo4kids.com/what-is-qimo/"
                        target="_blank">http://www.qimo4kids.com/what-is-qimo/</a></li>
                    <li>Trisquel TOAST <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast"
                        target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast</a></li>
                    <li>DebianEdu <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/"
                        target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/</a></li>
                    <li>Minino <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://minino.galpon.org/" target="_blank">http://minino.galpon.org/</a><br>
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                    <li>Huayra GNU Linux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://huayra.conectarigualdad.gob.ar/"
                        target="_blank">http://huayra.conectarigualdad.gob.ar/</a></li>
                    <li>Canaima GNU Linux <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/"
                        target="_blank">http://www.canaima.softwarelibre.gob.ve/</a><br>
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                  <p>They either:</p>
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                    <li>Don't include / consider Sugar</li>
                    <li>Are 'all or nothing'</li>
                    <li>Are hard to base from</li>
                    <li>Don't run well on classmates [because of
                      drivers]</li>
                    <li>Are dead projects or dormant</li>
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                  <p>We propose development of a common <i> Sugar Blend
                    </i>as a base for a classmate-class laptop operating
                    system: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://wiki.debian.org/SugarBlend/Huayruro"
                      target="_blank">https://wiki.debian.org/SugarBlend/Huayruro</a></p>
                  <p>Such a project would overcome the previous
                    limitations by building on a common base.<br>
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                - especially because of DebianEdu. <br>
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              <div>Why did you not join one of these projects and
                reinvigorate it to address the issues you listed?</div>
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    I did! Most of them were done without thinking of replicability or
    continuity. I am collaborating from inside Debian (although I
    haven't reached Debian Developer status). You'll notice all of the
    above have Debian as a base. Plus it's the only active project of
    the lot. Jonas and I worked actively on it last year. Sadly the
    Ministry of Education of Peru deployed tablets and did not fund the
    proposed project. I still think it is needed.<br clear="all">
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          <div>In concrete terms, what can be done to work together with
            him on this? </div>
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          <div>Would you want him to send you a laptop? What else could
            he do for you?</div>
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    Samples would be nice of course. I would love it if he would commit
    to offering Sugar as an option for deployment. It would be even
    better if they would commit some resources to making it a practical
    option. Sugar Labs should too. I don't think our current software
    offering set is adequate and I think this translates into the slow
    demand he perceives. No product, no demand. <br>
    --<br>
    Regards,<br>
    Sebastian<br>
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