<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender <<a href="mailto:walter.bender@gmail.com">walter.bender@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</span><span class="">> I am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we need<br>
> them.<br>
<br>
</span>I feel frustrated that no one has seconded this motion.<br>
<br>
The 2 emails below are the reason that I began discussing the<br>
solicitation of donations from members, and having just looked at<br>
Laura's spreadsheet - since the ledger file itself is not yet<br>
available to me - I want to be clear about why I have posted this<br>
motion and hope that it will be seconded and approved.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I thought we were still discussing it. I think a number of people have made it clear that they don't think an open-ended solicitation is a good idea.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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It seems the general fund has __JUST__ enough resources to pay for the<br>
Translations-Community Manager position this year:<br>
<br>
Last year $9,000 was donated, and as I expect Chris will invoice<br>
$1,000/month for the 8 months of May through December 2016, then it<br>
seems we have $1,000 left in the general fund.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It was my understanding that the Trip Advisor funds were paying for the i18n manager position. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Where did this $9,000 come from? I guess some is GSOC and GCI mentor<br>
fees. Any other sources?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This may include some unspent money from the Gould Grant as well. Cannot say for certain. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Last year we spent $700 on trademark registration. When will the next<br>
renewal be due?<br>
<br>
We also spent $550 last year and $825 in 2013 on 'development.' What<br>
happened, and will we need to spend anything again this year in a<br>
similar way?<br>
<br>
In any case, it seems that there is no budget for a Finance Manager<br>
office at the moment, nor a Social Media Manager office, not a Sugar<br>
Summit, unless we start soliciting donations to the general fund. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Cheers<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
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From: Lionel Laské <<a href="mailto:lionel.laske@gmail.com">lionel.laske@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 7 May 2016 at 13:27<br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder and<br>
some open issues to discuss<br>
To: Adam Holt <<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org">holt@laptop.org</a>><br>
Cc: iaep <<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, "OLPC para usuarios, docentes,<br>
voluntarios y administradores" <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>, Sugar-dev<br>
Devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, SLOBs<br>
<<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
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<br>
Sorry to be once again the devil's advocate but I think SugarLabs has<br>
no resource to pay for a Financial Manager. We can't both support the<br>
cost of a SFC and the cost of a Financial Manager.<br>
<br>
I think the job done by SFC and nice reports by Adam and Laura (and<br>
others) are enough for a small organization - without regular budget -<br>
like SugarLabs.<br>
If we need to have a Financial Manager so we need to think seriously<br>
to exit of SFC.<br>
<br>
Best regards from France.<br>
<br>
Lionel.<br>
<br>
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From: Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>><br>
Date: 11 May 2016 at 13:35<br>
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and<br>
some open issues to discuss<br>
To: Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com">dave@lab6.com</a>><br>
Cc: Chris Leonard <<a href="mailto:cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com">cjlhomeaddress@gmail.com</a>>, iaep<br>
<<a href="mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org">iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, Sugar-dev Devel<br>
<<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, "OLPC para usuarios, docentes,<br>
voluntarios y administradores" <<a href="mailto:olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org">olpc-sur@lists.laptop.org</a>>, SLOBs<br>
<<a href="mailto:slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org">slobs@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
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2016-05-12 2:08 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com">dave@lab6.com</a>>:<br>
> On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas <<a href="mailto:laura@somosazucar.org">laura@somosazucar.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among activities/teams/projects etc.<br>
><br>
> I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led directly to further income, to grow the project.<br>
<br>
I agree that there is a need for income strategies as well. Still, the<br>
idea of annual budget is to plan the expenses so that the most areas<br>
of an organization can produce results in what they do.<br>
<br>
It would be ideal to count with a somehow stable basic income, and<br>
therefore it would make sense to promote a motion for Lionel's idea of<br>
a yearly membership fee. Of course it would have to contemplate the<br>
exemptions of minors and members who actually don't have resources to<br>
pay.<br>
<br>
Been more than 80 members, a yearly fee of US$100 with an estimated<br>
~50% of exemptions would put in SL general fund ~US$4.000 per year,<br>
probably enough for basic operations.<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font><font>Walter Bender</font></font><br><font><font>Sugar Labs</font></font></div><div><font><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font>http://www.sugarlabs.org</font></a></font><br><a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank"><font></font></a><br></div></div></div>
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