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Dave<br>
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Please compare the current version with the original proposed by
Lionel Laske or yours before the goals were separated from the
Vision or the <br>
one proposed by Laura. Do you think that there is wide-spread
agreement on the statement or that there has been no change in the
past two <br>
months?<br>
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When a motion fails to achieve a second, there is a reason. After
discussion and rewriting, the motion to distribute funds to the
mentors got my <br>
second immediately.<br>
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The purpose of the Board meeting is to conduct the business of Sugar
Labs. Note: at the last meeting, the emphasis on voting on a series
of motions <br>
resulted in no report from the Translation Community Manager.<br>
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Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/05/2016 07:02 AM, Dave Crossland
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 4 June 2016 at 03:35, Tony
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<div id=":5l1" class="">This discussion of procedures
misses the point. Board meetings are not for the purpose
of voting yea/nea on motions. </div>
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<div>What do you think the purposes of the board meetings
are, then?</div>
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<div id=":5l1" class="">A majority of the Board
members commented on these motions before the meeting.
These comments were consistent with the comments made at
the meeting with a couple of exceptions. We need to come
to a consensus on the motions before they are presented
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<div>I disagree completely :) This is not a Quaker Meeting
House! :) Consensus is explicitly not required: Motions
can pass if 1 board member is willing to second the motion
and 4 affirmative votes (majority of 7 seats) are made. </div>
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<div id=":5l1" class="">With the exception of motions to
authorize payments, I don't see that any of these
motions have an urgency that justifies their being
passed immediately nor any harm to Sugar Labs resulting
from their not being passed on June 3. </div>
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<div>I suggest you refer to Walter's email to understand the
harm that has been done.</div>
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I appreciate the work and enthusiasm that you have
brought to the Vision motion. However, I don't
understand your apparent insensitivity to the obvious
fact that these issues are very important to the
community and deserve the time needed to obtain
community understanding and commitment.</div>
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You have provided a valuable framework in which to have
these discussions and that is a major contribution. I
hope that when the community discussion has reached
consensus on the wording of a vision statement that you
will be happy with the result and proud of your
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The community has had TWO MONTHS to get involved so far. How
much time do you think is needed?<br>
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Perhaps I should be drafting a 2017 vision?<br clear="all">
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Dave</div>
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