<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Dave Crossland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@lab6.com" target="_blank">dave@lab6.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div>- keep track of project financial assets, income, expenditures and any other financial information<br><br>You are doing a great job :D<br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>I can only deduce things out of public conversations. That is a very limited and stressful way of keeping track of financials.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div>I'm sorry to hear that its stressful for you - you're doing an awesome job!! :)</div><div><br>However, when thinking abut what is ideal for tracking finances, I understand that Conservancy uses <a href="http://www.ledger-cli.org" target="_blank">www.ledger-cli.org</a> to do accounting and while SL is a Conservancy project, it must use a ledger-cli compatible system. </div><div><br></div><div>It is a text file based system (eg <a href="http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Example-Journal-File" target="_blank">http://ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Example-Journal-File</a>) and Adam has access to the Sugar Labs text file. This formed the basis of what he posted to <a href="https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance" target="_blank">https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance</a> in summary.</div><div><br></div><div>Ideally I would like the file to be published, and to put up a web UI for it using the <a href="http://hledger.org" target="_blank">http://hledger.org</a> tools. </div></div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">Adam, can the full file be published?</b><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I've summarized the larger question to SFConservancy, as to whether this might be prudent and within modern legal norms. Hopefully Karen Sandler (Exec Director of SFC) and her team will have time to reply to us in coming weeks, as we are sending them a rather large number of questions these days, so it would be considerate to be extremely patient.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">While personal phone numbers and personal addresses seem to be appropriately redacted from the long ledger file, even if the above "let Google and the public audit it" answer is yes (if it is acceptable/tolerable for a non-profit to suddenly publish an almost decade-long ledger) there is a separate question as to whether it is wise.<br><br>For example, many thorny implied confidentiality questions suddenly arise such as: should Sugar Labs publish all past donors and the amounts they've donated and whether these people gave consent for their names to be published or not over the past decade (etc).<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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